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Vindman struggles to explain why he used "demand" when questioned

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by MolonLabe2009, Oct 30, 2019.

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  1. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    White House lawyer moved transcript of Trump call to classified server after Ukraine adviser raised alarms
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...0fbdb6-fb4e-11e9-8190-6be4deb56e01_story.html

    "Army Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman, the top Ukraine adviser at the White House, had been listening to the call and was disturbed by the pressure Trump had applied to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to investigate his political rivals, according to people familiar with Vindman’s testimony to lawmakers this week.

    Vindman told Eisenberg, the White House’s legal adviser on national security issues, that what the president did was wrong, said the people, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the ongoing investigation.

    Scribbling notes on a yellow legal pad, Eisenberg proposed a step that other officials have said is at odds with long-standing White House protocol: moving a transcript of the call to a highly classified server and restricting access to it, according to two people familiar with Vindman’s account."
     
    Lee Atwater, Oct 31, 2019
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  2. DaveBN

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    Thanks for the clarification. What’s going to be the defense once these proceeding go public and we can hear the testimony for ourselves? “That’s just, like, their opinions, man.”
     
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  3. MolonLabe2009

    MolonLabe2009 Banned

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    ...and that's the witnesses personal opinion.
     
    MolonLabe2009, Oct 31, 2019
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  4. MolonLabe2009

    MolonLabe2009 Banned

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    Bonespurs?

    What was Clinton's excuse for not serving?
     
    MolonLabe2009, Oct 31, 2019
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  5. Nemesis

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    Look it up for yourself.

    This thread should not be yet another "bbbbbbutwhatabout______" thread.
     
    Nemesis, Oct 31, 2019
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  6. DaveBN

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    So the answer to my question is yes. Got it. Can’t deny it happened. Just deny the interpretations of the events. You all are a hoot.
     
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    Left-wingers logic...

    Clinton did not serve. OK.
    Obama did not serve. OK.
    Trump did not serve. ORANGE MAN BAD.

    Got it!
     
    MolonLabe2009, Oct 31, 2019
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    MolonLabe2009 Banned

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    Deny what happened?
     
    MolonLabe2009, Oct 31, 2019
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  9. Thought Criminal

    Thought Criminal Well-Known Member Donor

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    As far as I can tell, that's all it will ever be.
     
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    o_O
    I wonder if Clinton or Obama ever said they know more than the generals... hmm. o_O
     
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  11. DaveBN

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    I’ve gathered as much.
     
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    President Donald Trump, while in the process of being president of the United States of America, sought something of value from a foreign nation that would profit him personally/politically, and used congressionally approved military aid as leverage to do so. Or at least that’s what is being alleged. We’ll see what the evidence and expert/witness testimony reveals.
    Anything else I can help you with?
     
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    Isn't that the history with witnesses for the Democrats! Every time they get them on the stand and under oath they choke! Could be something about going to jail that bring them and their recollection back to reality..
     
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  14. Nemesis

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    No, you don't have anything, my disingenuous amigo. That's not remotely like what I posted.

    Clinton dodged the draft. **** him.
    Bonespurs cheated the draft. **** him.
    Obama didn't cheat at all. Your post seeks to treat him the same way as folks who lied and cheated, which is nonsensical.
     
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    The real problem is hearsay, and that pretty much all they have!
     
    ButterBalls, Oct 31, 2019
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  16. DaveBN

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    If they’re lying, it should be revealed. No room in my heart for corruption on either side. That being said, I’ll believe them until I have reason to do otherwise.
     
    DaveBN, Oct 31, 2019
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  17. Thought Criminal

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    IT'S A BOMBSHELL! It's the beginning of the walls tightening! The nooses are closing in!

    The end is near!

    30mdm9.jpg
     
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    Cool story!

    But, it's only a story.
     
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    Well if draft dodgers are a thing with you, then look no further then to todays old leftist! There are a couple million of them you can **** to start with ;)
     
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    ButterBalls, Oct 31, 2019
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  20. Nemesis

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    He's going to be impeached. Why? Because he cannot obstruct justice and abuse the authority of the office.

    The End.
     
    Nemesis, Oct 31, 2019
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    It wont be about liars and truths, it will be about what can be proved from the actual voice of Trump stating "You do this or I wont do that".. It's really just that simply!
     
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  22. Nemesis

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    They're not all presidents.

    What I find particularly revolting is how Bonespurs pretends to fawn over the military, and how awesome the military is, but in his heart and in reality, he's a draft-dodger.
     
    Nemesis, Oct 31, 2019
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  23. MolonLabe2009

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    Alleged based purely on personal opinion. No evidence. Just personal opinion.
     
    MolonLabe2009, Oct 31, 2019
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    Seems to me that there are now first hand accounts of the call.
     
    DaveBN, Oct 31, 2019
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  25. Thought Criminal

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    What "reason" will you be using to evaluate the validity of any reasons?

    Will you take into account their fabrications of previous hoaxes when evaluating their credibility?
     
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