Read Elizabeth Warren’s lips: No middle class tax hike to fund $20T Medicare for All

As a lawmaker, why doesn't Warren propose a bill that would do everything she says she wants to do? We all know why she won't and that's because no one would vote for it. She wants to essentially kill private insurance and put our health care entirely in the hands of the government.

Has any lawmaker tried to make health care less expensive? When I had heart surgery, my total bill was $105K. When I looked at the itemized bill, about 30% of it was for medications and the anesthesia, but I also saw $15 for a mucus recovery system, and when I asked what that was I was told it was for a box of tissues.

BTW, no one with a working brain cell is going to believe taxes and medical costs won't go up. No one.

 

Yeah, and if they say $20 Trillion, that actually means $50 Trillion...or more.

 

Don't forget Democrats not only want Americans to pay for the healthcare and welfare of any foreign national that makes it to America, they want Americans to compete with foreign nationals to get the services they pay for.

Raise your hand if you want Americans to pay for the healthcare and welfare of any foreign national that makes it to America and force Americans to compete with foreign nationals for healthcare and welfare they pay for...

 

Did you notice how Warren wants us to think that more low IQ and uneducated illegals would somehow contribute to paying for her insane plan? She wants us to believe that bus boys and lawn care people are going to contribute $400 billion in taxes. Plus what she's saying is the more illegals we have the more money we'll get. She's hitting us with a twofer.

 

Hmm. so she finally admits that illegals DO NOT PAY TAXES, the constant assurances by the libs (including the forum libs) to the contrary notwithstanding. Color me shocked LOL

Lest we forget that the legalization will add those millions of illegals to the Medicare-for-all program, the cost of covering them will by far exceed the $400 billion in new tax revenue, Warren so optimistically projects.

 

It is empirical fact that single payer systems provide better care at a fraction of the cost our current system does. You guys are going to love Medicare for all!

 

The "ultra rich" that she plans on taxing is you and me

 

Lol this is like the "Hillary by a landslide!" predictions

 

So nice to hear that Warren's plan will put $52 trillion back into taxpayers' pockets.... oh wait... her "better, costing just a fraction" plan will in fact take $52 trillion out of taxpayers' pockets. Oops.

 

Is she admitting Obamacare was a failure?

 

No, it’s empirical fact that single payer provides better outcomes at a fraction of the cost. You’re gonna love it.

https://www.who.int/healthinfo/paper30.pdf

 

Am Th bid hard for you guys I know, but we spend more for private healthcare and get worse results currently. Medicare for all (single payer) is cheaper than what we currently pay. You’re gonna love it

 

lol! I love your predictions. Each time the alt left loses their prediction bringing up screen shots of their quotes is so much fun. Then you guys "magically disappear" from the forum for a few months...

then the process starts again!

lol

 

So Warren's plan is adding $52 trillion to the tab, for good measure. LOL, brilliant liberal logic

 

Is such ultimately why the people of Britain must pull their own teeth with pliers at home, rather than seeing a dentist?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1135582/Man-pulls-13-teeth-pliers-NHS-dentist.html

 

Fraction of the cost because they cover a fraction of the procedures with a fraction of the new drugs on the market. And by "better care", do you mean a 4-10x waiting period for hip replacement or knee surgery? Not to mention waiting 6 days in an emergency room corridor for someone to look at your broken back?
https://metro.co.uk/2018/03/18/form...rridor-for-six-days-with-broken-back-7395207/

When all you eat is crap provided for "free" your entire life, and don't know there are better foods out there, you will always say you are happy with the "free" meal.

 

I didn’t make a prediction. I showed you the empirical fact that single payer is chi paper and provides better outcomes, lol

 

You're literally predicting a medicare for all! lol!

 

A week or two ago I saw a story on what income level California thinks qualifies as rich thus capable and deserving of paying more and higher taxes. Over the years it started at about $500k, now $75k a year is considered rich in that fine state.

 

Where are you getting lost? We spend more on private healthcare than we will on single payer, meaning we save money.

 

Britain isn’t single payer. But your single anecdote aside, their universal system still provides better care for less money than our system.

 

We have a for profit health system, take that away and what do you think you will get? Think DMV.

 

I know the empirical reality can be tough to swallow, because it clashes with your ideology. But that won’t make reality go away. Single payer systems provide better care for less than our system.

 

Prove that americans spend $5.2 trillion a year on healthcare, please.

 

Adding $52 trillion that Warren plan requires to be funded is saving money? LOL