Tulsi Gabbard calls Hillary Clinton the ‘embodiment of corruption’

@FreshAir poor guy lost his way. Forgot that he voted for the same resolution that sent us to war.

Unless of course he is saying that Hillary and Biden are so incompetent that they couldn't understand the circumstances. In which case...he voted for people too stupid to lead the nation.

Either way- not looking good for his votes lol

 

no, what they voted for was to allow Trump to leave the option of war on the table during the negotiations with Iraq and decide for himself, yes, we now know that was a mistake as when the investigators found no WMD, Bush ordered them out of Iraq and went to war anyways

Bush and only Bush decided to go to war with Iraq, Congress never approved it

http://watchingthewatchers.org/news/624/iraq-war-cost-little-and-iraq-oil

"If you can remember that far back, before the invasion of Iraq, Dick Cheney and friends were arrogantly sure that (a) the cost of the war would be minimal, and (b) Iraq's oil revenue would fund reconstruction efforts; it would virtually be a no-cost war, one that paid for itself."

 

If Congress never approved it, how did Hillary and Biden vote "Yes"....when they could have voted "No"?

There was a vote...

LOL!

 

did you prefer putting our military lives at risk, rather than drones

just like Trump is doing the same, Bush caught the tiger by the tail and they know they gonna get bit when they let go, just like when Obama pulled out of Iraq on Bush's timeline and agreement Bush made with Iraq

 

they voted to allow the decider to decide, they did not vote to go to war.. but you already know that

 

You didn't answer the question. If Hillary Clinton (who you voted and campaigned for) and Joe Biden (who you voted and campaigned for) "Never voted" to go to war, how come there IS a vote, and they voted "Yes" instead of "No"?

Are you saying they are the liars? Or are they too stupid to understand the circumstances?

Not sure how this is so hard for you to understand

 

So why did they not vote "No" like Obama did? Are you saying they lack the competence to make important decisions?

 

huh? you sure that wasn't Trump whining about Bush?

 

cause they felt it was wrong to take that option off the table of negotiations to get Saddam to allow in US inspectors, Obama I guess did not trust Bush to decide, Obama was right, hindsight tells us that

turns out the inspectors were just a excuse for war, they did not think Iraq would let them in

http://musingsoniraq.blogspot.com/2008/06/un-inspectors-were-right-iraq-was-not.html

"by 2002 the new Bush administration decided on war with Iraq. One of the problems they were faced with was how to justify it. In March 2002 British Prime Minister Tony Blair’s office suggested to the White House that a new round of U.N. inspectors could be the way to provoke a war. England believed that Iraq would refuse inspections and that could not only provide the legal justification for war, but also help build public support."

 

"Together we must also confront the new hazards of chemical and biological weapons, and the outlaw states, terrorists and organized criminals seeking to acquire them. Saddam Hussein has spent the better part of this decade, and much of his nation's wealth, not on providing for the Iraqi people, but on developing nuclear, chemical and biological weapons and the missiles to deliver them."
President Clinton, Jan. 27, 1998.

"It is essential that a dictator like Saddam not be allowed to evade international strictures and wield frightening weapons of mass destruction. As long as UNSCOM is prevented from carrying out its mission, the effort to monitor Iraqi compliance with Resolution 687 becomes a dangerous shell game. Neither the United States nor the global community can afford to allow Saddam Hussein to continue on this path."
Sen. Tom Daschle (D, SD), Feb. 12, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
Madeleine Albright, Feb. 18, 1998.

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb. 18, 1998.

"We urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998.

"As a member of the House Intelligence Committee, I am keenly aware that the proliferation of chemical and biological weapons is an issue of grave importance to all nations. Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998.

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
Madeleine Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999.

 

Nope... you ladies (please excuse me if I assumed your gender) have been complaining about Ellen and Bush since they watched a football game.

 

you seem to be trying to re-write history, congress voted to allow Bush the decider to decide, they did not vote on if to go to war or not

 

never heard such a complaint, in fact most said it gave them confidence in America as if the two could get along... maybe others could too

 

yep, that is why they voted to leave the option of war on the table to get Saddam to agree to the inspectors, which he did

then Bush decided to go to war anyways, Bush and only Bush decided this after the inspectors reported no WMD

 

So you support Hillary and Biden voting "Yes" when Obama voted "no".

Interesting.

Good to know for future discussion.

 

You yourself commented on the thread.

Do we need a refresher?

 

I just witnessed a beat down.

 

Congress funded the war in Iraq. That my friend is approval.

 

republicans controlled Congress

Bush was going to war, funding or no funding, Bush already made the choice

 

I never put down Ellen and Bush sitting together

yeah, show me a link or admit your wrong.... lol, you know there is no quote of me ever saying that, on this tread or any other

 

I think Obama was right to vote 'no' with hindsight, but I understand why Hillary and Biden voted 'Yes' to allow the option of war to stay on the table to get Saddam to let inspectors in, which he did btw, and they found no wmd, but Bush went to war anyways

 

You claim they are bush's wars... yet the quotes cited for you (and we can cite plenty more) come from WELL before Bush was even elected.

Are you aware of the WMD timeline?

Keep in mind- you voted for EVERY person involved. Bill, Hillary, and Biden. Hold on, let's dig up more Dem quotes from prior to 2001.

Pretty sure you voted and supported them too lol

 

Incorrect. I'm talking about the Bush Ellen Thread itself.

I never once mentioned you said it on this thread.

I think you need to re-read the post. I think you also need to re-read the electoral map lol

 

@FreshAir loves to pretend he or She doesn't make accusations. he or She also makes a LOT of predictions. Then takes a "break" from the forum after a certain group of them are incorrect.

 

That makes no sense...

Hillary and Biden voted "YES". Why didn't they vote "NO" which was an option?

You keep dodging that lol!