Yovanovitch gets standing ovation at the end of 5-hour hearing

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  1. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Your BLOTUS is the one disrespecting the Office of the President but don't let that FACT get in your way.
     
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    By 2016, officials throughout the Obama administration, the EU and the IMF had come to a consensus that Ukraine’s prosecutor general, Viktor Shokin, wasn’t doing enough to crack down on corruption. Biden, as he later colorfully recounted, delivered the message that the West wanted Shokin gone or else loan guarantees would be held up, and Shokin was, in turn, fired.

    There was nothing remotely controversial about this at the time. No congressional Republicans complained about it, and the European Union hailed the decision to fire Shokin. The reason there is video footage of Biden touting his personal role in this is it was considered a foreign policy triumph that Biden wanted to claim credit for, not anything sordid or embarrassing. Joe Biden did nothing wrong if Trump thought he did, why didn't he ask his AG to investigate him in 2017 or 2018 and even the first seven months of 2019? Why did he wait until the most recent Fox poll in July had Joe Biden leading all democratic candidates? Oh, maybe because Trump was afraid that Joe Biden would win in 2020 and he had to do something to stop him. Something like.... extortion of Zelensky to get him to investigate Joe Biden since here was absolutely zero evidence needed to open an investigation right here in the U.S. But Shokin, of course, didn’t want to go down on the theory that he was corrupt or incompetent. So he started offering another theory: he was fired for going after Burisma by Joe Biden operating on behalf of Hunter Biden.

    The Burisma investigation was done and Hunter Biden wasn't found involved in the mess created by the Burisma's founder who faced multiple investigations into alleged tax evasion and money laundering. Yuriy Lutsenko, Ukraine's prosecutor general, later said that he had no evidence of wrongdoing against either Biden.
     
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    Are you foreigner or just cant accept the results of an election? Your opinions are not "facts" no matter how much you misrepresent them, as such.
     
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    What would your reaction be if POTUS, your Boss, announced adversely to your interests, that you were going to go through some things?
     
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    The first sentence of your post disqualifies your argument.
     
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    Your question makes no sense. Why don’t you explain how someone would know if those things were adverse to their interests ???
     
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    All you have to do is read the Transcript of the July 25 call so see that.
     
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    So you have no explanation of your question.
     
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    From the transcript:

    Trump:

    The former ambassador from the United $tates, the woman, was bad news and the people she was dealing with in the Ukraine were bad news so I just want to let you know that.[/quote]

    Zelensky:

    Trump:

    Does that present as an adverse background to the comment, "Well, she's going to go through some things?"
     
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    The one Schiffty had to add to in "Parody"?

    Hey, President Trump never lies, he is just "parodying".
     
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    Zelensky:



    Trump:



    Does that present as an adverse background to the comment, "Well, she's going to go through some things?"[/QUOTE]

    Your post confirms that she should have been recalled.
     
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    Your post confirms that she should have been recalled.[/QUOTE]

    It confirms that Yovanovitch was reacting quite naturally to be very apprehensive about what the most powerul Man in her World meant when he said: "Well, she's going to go through some things?"
     
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    It confirms that Yovanovitch was reacting quite naturally to be very apprehensive about what the most powerul Man in her World meant when he said: "Well, she's going to go through some things?"[/QUOTE]

    She is teaching at Georgetown and she is still apprehensive ??

    What does any of this have to do with impeachment ??
     
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    That is what she said. Would you not be very apprehensive in the same circumstances?

    He might be impeached for needlessly maligning a career diplomat with totally unnecessary private and public demeaning, derogatory and defamatory remarks, including as part of a conversation with a foreign Leader.
     
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    That you are resorting to puerile fallacies establishes that you cannot distinguish between the OFFICE of the Presidency and the FACT that it is your despicable BLOTUS who is degrading it on a daily basis with his crimes and insults.
     
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    You are entitled to you OPINION, that's all it is. And I posted nothing "puerile" and he is also YOUR President, assuming you are in the USA.
     
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    He is not the President of the individuals living in the USA. He is the President of the USA, different fish. Morrison is the PM of Australia. Not one Aussie would regard him as their PM and neither would Morrison regard himself as their PM. He is simply the PM.
     
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    Stooping to allegations about being a "foreigner" is a puerile deflection on your part.

    As an American I can make up my own mind as to whether or not YOUR BLOTUS is a LEGITIMATE occupant of the Office of the Presidency.

    In 2000 the SCOTUS imposed Bush jr on the nation by DENYING We the People a full recount therefore he was NOT legitimate during his first term IMO. However he did win in 2004 and was therefore a legitimate occupant of the Office of the Presidency.

    The exact same logic and reasoning applies to your BLOTUS as far as I am concerned. Minority voter suppression resulted in a RIGGED election that DENIED the Will of the People their rightful choice of who should be occupying the Office of the Presidency.

    Obviously you prefer an ILLEGITIMATE IMPOSTOR to the Will of We the People for purely partisan reasons.
     
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    If you are unable to accept the results of a lawful election, the only other option is violence. There is not a chance in hell that Trump supporters are going to accept the removal of him other than by an election. Will the Democrats accept the results of the next election if Trump wins it while losing the popular vote again?
     
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    Complete and utter NONSENSE!

    I suggest that you take the TIME to READ what I ACTUALLY POSTED!

    Usurpers and imposters are commonplace in politics.

    Where do BLOTUS supporters come up with ABSURDITIES like the "only other option is violence"?
     
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    Lefties have been pretty violent towards Trump supporters.
     
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    A superior, enlightened intellectual Liberal sees something funny not realizing he/she been subtly insulted?

    Now, here's a first!
     
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    Thank you for establishing that fascists support your BLOTUS!
     
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    :roflol:

    Oh, the IRONY!

    :roflol:
     
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    Dems are so stupid that when the facts don’t fit their story they move to another accusation.
     

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