Yovanovitch gets standing ovation at the end of 5-hour hearing

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  1. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes indeed.

    Proof of Biden admitting what he did to Ukraine.

     
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    His drug addicted son was paid $50K per month by a Ukrainian natural gas company whose president was as corrupt as they come. Biden admitted bribing the Ukrainian government to shut down the investigation of Burisma by firing the lead prosecutor. The payoff was $1B in US aid.

    See the tape directly above. Can you now believe your lying eyes and ears ??
     
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    What Republicans are you talking about ??
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Had Trump pulled that and bragged, guess what the Democrats would say bad about Trump!!!! They are not kidding me at all.
     
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    Exactly. This is Sharyl Attkisson's substitution game. Biden's admission is ignored whilst if Trump had done this the press would go wild. Actually they went wild when Trump suggested finding out more about corruption in Ukraine including Biden's son's non job for which he was paid $600K per year. And actually we don't have journalists anymore. What we have are transactional so-called journalists which for favorable coverage for the Democrats for leaked classified information. It's disgusting.
     
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    How did that benefit his own Son? In fact, it would have the opposite effect. Shokin was asleep at the wheel. Getting rid of him would put Buden Jnr into an area of greater risk would it not?
     
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    I have seen that tape many times already. There is no reference to Burisma or Biden Jnr. And it was not $1B in aid. It was a loan guarantee to that amount.
     
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    Exonerate Burisma for what, exactly? I haven't heard a single soul say they wanted that.

    How do we know Zelenskiy was happy to see Yovanovitch gone? If he said that, it was likely because he knew it was what Trump wanted to hear. Put yourself in his shoes: he would say or do anything to protect and defend his people and his country.
     
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    You are not logical, sorry.

    Intimidated by sharp criticism from the most powerful man on the planet. The medium he uses to issue his attacks is not relevant. After reading the call transcript where he told Zelenskiy that she was going to "go through some things," who wouldn't feel threatened? Think!
     
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    Particularly the future tense......'going to go through some things.' She had already been recalled (in May 2019) so what was Trump foreshadowing?
     
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    Hilarious. Progressives spin conspiracies out of uncomfortable feelings but can’t connect the dots between bribing Ukraine to fire the prosecutor investigating corruption at Burisma. Too funny.

    Loan guarantees are aid.
     
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    Well, I am refusing to join dots on Trump at the moment so I'll do the same with all. Is that okay? Yes loan guarantees are a form of aid.
     
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    What things ??? What call transcript did she read ??? When did she read it ??? Would she feel threatened if Putin or the former corrupt Ukrainian President said she was going to go through some things ???

    The illogical and irrational contortions here are breathtaking.
     
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    You have a lot of irrational company.
     
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    Sigh ...

    https://www.wsj.com/video/yovanovit...icy/25E1B356-BE84-4AD7-B047-B0E20E34F2F9.html

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...orced-out-ukraines-top-prosecutor/3785620002/

    "But sources ranging from former Obama administration officials to an anti-corruption advocate in Ukraine say the official, Viktor Shokin, was ousted for the opposite reason Trump and his allies claim.

    It wasn't because Shokin was investigating a natural gas company tied to Biden's son; it was because Shokin wasn't pursuing corruption among the country's politicians, according to a Ukrainian official and four former American officials who specialized in Ukraine and Europe."

    https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-...ad-misleads-about-biden-ukraine-and-prosecut/

    "A frustrated Biden in Dec. 2015 threatened to withhold $1 billion unless Shokin was fired, in hopes that a new prosecutor would do more to enforce the law."

    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/c-span-video-joe-biden-ukraine/

    "The user-created clip fostered a false impression by pairing a misleading caption with an excerpt from a much longer video with no context."

    There's more where that came from. Those who refuse to look outside of the right wing bubble and insist on getting all of their information from extremely biased sources such as Breitbart, the Daily Caller, and Rush Limbaugh are doomed to looking like uneducatable nincompoops on debate forums. Nothing personal and my apologies if that includes you.
     
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    Neither Kent nor Taylor have been personally vilified and threatend by the president. Think!
     
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    Please message me your address so that I can burglarize your house. I won't actually take anything ... maybe I'll just sit and watch your TV for a while. I'm certain, by your reply here, that you won't feel invaded or violated and won't press charges.

    In other words, I don't believe you, not for one second.

    Sheesh. :crazy:
     
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    When it was released. In it she sees....just like you can.........'Well, she' s going to go through somethings.' If you read that about yourself, would you not feel at least very apprehensive?
     
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    Who are you referring to?
     
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    Don’t believe a fact? Fascinating.
     
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    When was it released??? When did she see it ??? What does any of this have to do with impeachment ???
     
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    Breathtaking indeed.
     
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    Oh ffs!

    The president has no authority to decide how much aid, or what form it takes. That is entirely up to congress. All the president can do is propose, or veto a bipartisan bill. DONALD TRUMP IS NO ONE'S EFFING HERO. Sorry to shout, but it is extremely difficult to get throught the right wing bubble.

    Please educate yourself. Untill you do, I'm ignoring you. It's been kind of fun, but after a while, stubborn ignorance becomes very tedious. I am sorry, I do know that will seem insulting to you, but your absolute refusal to learn the facts in all of this is just too damn much for someone who just got out of the hospital yesterday.
     
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    Who are these Obama and Ukrainian sources ??? What have posted are prime examples of transactional “journalism”.
     
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    The President sets foreign policy.
     

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