Yovanovitch gets standing ovation at the end of 5-hour hearing

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  1. Natty Bumpo

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    Even the most puckered of Trump bum kissers cannot pretend that Fake Don did not focus a spotlight on the sworn testimony of this dedicated public servant that wreaked havoc with his rabid Republican committee members' plan to relegate her to obscurity. The sniveling twit, by his petty, hysterical outburst, elevated this impressive individual to a status that she had not sought, to the detriment of hardcore Trumpers everywhere.
     
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    Orange rude - must impeach. Absurd.
     
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    That's the pattern. And in doing so they are destroying the spirit of our system of justice and government. Due process is fundamental to the American way of life. It is not a right by all Americans in a purely legal situation. Democrats are trampling this and in the process turning the impeachment process into a purely partisan political process which threatens to turn the US into a banana republic. The party of goodness is the party of evil.
     
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    Nice rant but it has nothing to do with impeachable acts.
     
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    If Cry Baby Don were seriously contesting his impeachment, he would not be throwing his pissy tweet tantrums and spewing his revilements at dedicated public servants testifying under oath. Whether he can control his hysterical outbursts in the coming week remains to be seen.

    The Senate is hellbent on letting him walk, but the truth - exposed by the inquiry, Giuliani's, Parnas's, and Fruman's plea bargaining, and by Mulvaney, Bolton, and other insiders if Fake Don fails to keep them gagged, will be out there when the American electorate issues its verdict a year from now.
     
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    There you go again.
     
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    But certainly you do not believe he has been convicted? I used multiple question marks more in shock or surprise that you said what you said. My being 81 means I am an adult.
     
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    At last one Democrat admits this is for election show. Democrats are interfering with an election.
     
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    Not my problem if the FACTS that some BLOTUS supporters are fascists is TRUE!
     
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    Expressing truths you don't like, yes.

    Trump's million-dollar contributor, Sondland, is attracting quite a bit of interest.
     
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    Only in the minds of the sufferers. Hearsay about hearsay does not prove the dem clown show narrative correct.
     
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    She should never have bad mouthed the president as our Ambassador to Ukraine. That got her removed.
     
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    You can pretend that is the case if you need to.

    In reality, Congressional leadership consistently resisted fulfilling their Constitutional responsibility, initiating an impeachment inquiry, until it became unavoidable.

    Regardless of the political implications, the revelation of truth by apolitical, dedicated public servants serves to educate the electorate, and if Trump stops gagging insiders such as Mulvaney and Bolton to keep what they have to offer hidden, they will add their insights to the knowledge being provided.

    Knowledge is good.
     
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    Your BLOTUS called his fascist supporters in Charlottsville "fine people"!
     
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    Thing about Sondland is he has his residence in Oregon and Trump says he knows him but not very well. Still he sent him as Ambassador to the EU so he should spend less time distancing himself from the man and simply admit he appointed him. That has no relevance to the question over events in Ukraine though. Sondland was explicit in saying there was no quid pro quo since there was none. A favor explicitly distances Trump from an order or a demand.
     
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    They have no duty to impeach. It is political. I realize why Democrats are doing this. It is a political show intended to interfere with the 2020 election. It is entirely an election stunt.
     
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    He did not call alleged Fascist supporters that. He blasted the fascist Antifa and the white supremacists.

    There are a hell of a lot of supporters to keep the statues and millions were not even there at Charlottesville. And a lot of citizens of Charlottesville are indeed fine people who want the statues to remain. They still are there in fact.
     
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    At your age, you should have learned the basics of grammar by now. An alternative to redundant exclamation points can be more effective.. Such as 'I'm deeply shocked' or 'I'm stunned with disbelief'.

    However, back to your comment. I have never stated that Trump has been convicted, nor have I even as much as stated that he has been 'indicted', which as we all know, precludes any convictions of crimes. As clearly stated in my comment, if this was a criminal investigation rather than a political impeachment, there would most certainly be solid indictments of Trump on campaign finance violations. Remember he's an unnamed co-conspirator in the Karen McDougal hush money payoffs, Michael Cohen is in prison right now for that. Then there's, bribery, extortion, obstruction of justice and abuse of power among other things.
     
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    The instant the Democrats labeled it their impeachment investigation it became pure politics to interfere with the 2020 election. Congress is actually campaigning for themselves openly. And blocking republicans who would also love to use these hearings for election purposes. And believe me, I can see the election ads flowing right now. In my mind at least.
     
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    This forum is not here so you can lecture posters nor posture for the forum. My use of multiple ? marks was noticed since it is so seldom I do that. It is an alert for sure, but not what you allege. You were not accused of saying Trump is convicted yet your operating as were he guilty. I do not accept your alleged facts. See, you are speaking to a man who for decades has been well versed in election laws along with other law that I was schooled in.

    I consider that McDougal and Daniels were both admitted extortionists seeking high payments due to Trump being elected president. Cohen is in jail for various things. You must make a case for me that I can examine. I do not consider mere accusations to be proof.
     
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    “I said that resumption of the U.S. aid would likely not occur until Ukraine provided the public anticorruption statement that we had been discussing for many weeks,” Sondland says in his new testimony, referring to a conversation he had with Andriy Yermak, a top adviser to Zelensky.
     
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    That of course did not mention Biden nor his son. Dammit, Trump should have included that.
     
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    Mark Medows

    Wonder how long the dem clown show will delay the transcript.
     
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    The whistleblower's complaint that led directly to the impeachment inquiry was found to be "credible" and an "urgent concern" by Trump's Inspector General for the intelligence community.

    If Trump abused his power by withholding allocated aid to a foreign nation for the purpose of extracting his "favor" to serve his personal political agenda, that is an abuse of power. Our Congressional representative are bound, by oath, to “support and defend the Constitution” and to “well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office.” That imposes—at some point and under sufficiently dire circumstances - an obligation to take action against any president who has abused his office, whether Nixon, Clinton, or, if the inquiry reveals sufficient evidence, Trump.

    Will the Senate trial be a partisan, political stunt? Of course. Fake Don will falsely bray that he has been found, "Not guilty!", no doubt.

    Nevertheless, whatever truth is being been uncovered, despite Trump's desperate need to gag those most conversant with his machinations, accrues to the benefit of the American electorate.

    Knowledge is good.
     
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    In Washington, political considerations are inevitable. That is why Congressional leadership resisted and postponed an impeachment inquiry until the proper course, ruled "credible" and and of "urgent concern" by Trump's Inspector General for the intelligence community, became unavoidable.

    If Trump will stop trying to hide the pertinent information to which principle in his regime such as Mulvaney and Bolton could provide, the process could be expedited.
     
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