The Fair Vote

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  1. rahl

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    They do not. All national guards are under the US military.
     
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    I’m pointing out states can’t prevent federal law enforcement from enforcing federal law. States can choose not to criminalize or prosecute anything they wish. This has no effect on federal law, or the ability of federal law to be enforced by federal law enforcement.
     
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    No they are not.. state national guards are regulated by each state and independent of the federal government.

    Its called once again sovereign states.
     
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    Look at it this way, if the United states was nuked , a little state like Minnesota can call on its national gaurd to launch fighter planes and bombers and attack Russia.
     
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    All national guards are under the US military.
     
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    While subordinate to the US military, and only on their orders. A state can not unilaterally attack a sovereign nation without a federal declaration of war, or order from the US military.
     
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    The state of Wyoming could launch its nuke missiles at Russia if Washington was no more..
     
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    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And how do you know YOU aren't being played by a troll?
     
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    Yes it could under a governor's orders.


    Heck the governor of Nebraska could unleash his nuclear missiles at Russia under attack
     
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    I know
     
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    No it can’t.


    the governor doesn’t have any nuclear missiles. The US military does. All of which are regulated by the NRC, which is a federal agency.

    Just put down the shovel already. You can’t dig any deeper.
     
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    The nuclear missiles are in fly over states and under governors control, the 80% are on subs under the president control
     
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    The governor's have the codes to launch a counter attack if the president gets killed by a nuke, every one knows this , civics 101
     
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    All nuclear warheads and nuclear material are under federal control. All of it. No state has the ability or authority to launch a single nuclear missile.
     
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    No they don’t.
     
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    Link?

    Ya think if Washington was nuked governor's wouldn't have the ability to launch a counter attack?

    Preposterous.
     
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    https://fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/IF10521.pdf

    The president has sole authority. No state governor can launch a missile, or attack another nation. They do not have access to the missile launch codes. Jesus Christ please stop already.
     
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    No he doesn't.
     
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    So ya think states would just take a crap in there pants if Washington D.C. was nuked?

    No they would fight like hell.

    They would use every nuke missiles and every nukes ar there disposal
     
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    Tom Leher wrote a song about nuclear proliferation back in the '60's the last line of which was

    "We'll try to remain serene and calm when Alabama gets the bomb."

    but listen to the whole thing.

     
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    So now you're also opposed to the senate? Fascinating.
     
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    Actually, in a treaty among sovereign states, it should be one state one vote.
     
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    I frankly think it was a good idea. But, I note, that after the war, none of the new European states adopted it. Even if DeGaulle did create a Senate in France, it has not the same powers as does the American variety.

    What is always key in any democracy is that the popular-vote determines fairly and honestly any electoral outcome. Which, as I never tire saying, the US has failed to do because it has allowed unacceptable voting-practices of elections for both the Executive and Legislative branches. (Aside from many PotUSes in history that once elected) have tried to pack the Supreme Court.)

    Such manipulations are all very, very sad for the Greatest Nation on Earth. Besides, it is the
    type of people who run for office that matter as much as how the country is configured in terms of governance.

    And Donald Dork is showing the world how bad an American Democracy can get. First, he is illegitimately elected by the EC, and then he demonstrates how fully incompetent he can be as a PotUS. (Mr. Twitter has the communication skills of a 5th-grader.)

    But what scares most is that half the nation overlook his misguided and overtly self-serving penchants. They think this ignominious fool is "Just Great!"

    Such naiveness does not bode well for the nation ...



    Je ne t'amuse plus? Merde! Quel dommage! :(

    Au revoir, Madame ...
     
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  25. TedintheShed

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    Yes I did. I linked the process and quoted it. I even highlighted the relevant part.

    You have never once voted for a president. You voted for a member of the electoral college.

    I know, you'll deny it. But your feels do not change facts. And here is the kicker: as long as butt hurt Democrats continue to act like you do by denying reality, even the tangerine tyrant will be able to take advantage of you.

    As for me? I don't have a don't have a dog in this fight. I understand that no matter what party wins, we all lose.
     
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