The Fair Vote

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    500,000 people shouldn’t overrule 5,000,000
     
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    It doesn’t what? Having 1 persons vote count 3 times more than another is grossly unequal.
     
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    Good gawd, each state automatically gets two, we are a country of 50 states..
     
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    It is 700,000 in California

    And 600,000 in Wyoming
     
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    Address what I said. Having 1 persons vote count 3 times more than another is grossly unequal.
     
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    It's not

    2 for the state automatically

    1 for the people automatically
     
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    Your numbers are off.
     
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    1 vote in Wyoming weighs 3 times more than 1 vote in California. That is grossly unequal.
     
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    No it doesn't


    California and Wyoming each automatically get 2 for state rights

    Then California gets 53 for people's rights

    And Wyoming gets 1 for peoples rights


    Totally fair
     
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    Having attempted a dialog with you before,
    it is concluded the ONLY POINT
    you know is the one at the top of your head.



    When Was The Last Leader Of France
    not from the population heavy, Paris region?



    YOU really should study some :flagus: history and stop the faith based
    HERstory derived opinions.

    Study the "compromises" required to enlist enough "States"
    to accept the Constitution and role of a Federal government in
    relation to the "States".

    When you have; give us a synopsis of those compromises demonstrating some study.
    Then your disagreements might carry some validity as opposed to ignorance.


    Consider how many "Republics" France has endured since
    the French Revolution.
    And how many Republics :flagus: has endured since the adoption
    of the Constitution.




    Moi :oldman:





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    Viva Acadia Liberte
     
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    What of the :salute: Republic of California :)



    BTW consider the Kingdom of Hawai'i
    had embassies from England, France, Russia, Japan, Austria, Germany
    I think I'm forgetting one of two.
    when :flagus: absorbed it as a territory!
    And No One Cared! Natives Don't Count ;)

    The Republics of California & Texas sought admission to the union.


    Moi :oldman:
    History, not HERstory.






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    None of the last three.

    That is ancient history, which the Replicants love to harp about. Which I love to read but I hesitate to apply to today's world.

    What I have learned from that history is that - from the get-go of our nation - the north dominated the south quite simply because the flood from Europe (and particularly England, Ireland and Germany) in the early part of the 19th century were setting up home in the northern states.

    The key relevance of that time in our history is the manner in which a "nice try" at developing a True Democracy came apart just six-years after the Constitution.

    I maintain that the 12th Amendment need not be abolished, but should be seriously rewritten, without which American cannot be a True Democracy. Because as long as the popular-vote for the presidency is manipulated by the Electoral College the country is, indeed, still not a fully-fledged democracy.

    Totally irrelevant.

    Both French and American revolutionaries were kin as regards wrenching their freedoms from monarchies. They had a lot to talk about. And one would be amazed how this sharing came about especially due to the fact that Washington would have surely lost his revolutionary war had the French KING not assisted in winning it.

    But the French are a people of Latin origin, and therefore have a tendency towards confusion - which is what happened. They started chopping off heads and the infighting became awesomely bloody. Most French were grateful that Napoleon finally settled the rife and got to managing the country. It still took a while longer before they dumped royalty and instituted a fledgling democracy.

    But the two nations France and the US remain quite different. Especially as regards "style of life". What they did get right, however, and as did the rest of Europe was to make both National Healthcare and Tertiary Education government-provided services.

    There is not a nation in the European Union that would forsake either ...
     
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    Actually we are a single country, with federal law superseding state law.
     
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    Deleting irrelevant content isn’t changing your quote. It’s removing irrelevant content to save space.
     
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    No one must remove contents they have no retort for.


    *shrugs*
     
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    Which has no relevance to 2019 America. Candidates aren’t trucking across the country doing railway tours anymore. Every single state has equal access to candidate campaigns. The current system is grossly unequal.
     
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    I refuted your argument with the citation I gave you. The deleted portion of your quote was irrelevant.
     
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    No we are not a single country, each state has it's own government and military.

    Heck the Minnesota national guard could take on Iran in a heartbeat alone with its airforce and tanks if they had common borders.
     
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    This is a picture of boise Idaho national gaurd first female crew..

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    Once again you refuse to accept each state has it's own government and own military.
     

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