The Cruelty of the $15 Minimum Wage

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  1. DaveBN

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    You’re argument is dead locked on one example I gave. My apologies for not opening with a novel on the benefits of increasing the minimum wage.
    Are you reading what you’re posting? You’re saying that a higher minimum would be a tool to keep people poor and enrich corporations because people might spend a bit more on Starbucks. Then you ignore the benefits of increased income arguing some people may actually desire **** pay.
    Your arguments have been ridiculous across the board. Understandable given your position.
     
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    Ever increasing living expenses and the cost of a four year degree. The average person lives paycheck to paycheck even when only buying the essentials. For many, missing a paycheck is near financial suicide.
     
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    Quote where I have said anything of the sort. I’m advocating a higher minimum wage. Not unemployment. Work on your reading comprehension.
    Also, I’m perfectly capable of looking up job listings. I just have no reason to make your argument on your behalf. Your failure to offer any kind of link speaks to you convictions on the matter.
     
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    Why are you advocating for a higher federal minimum wage?

    To just pay more for goods and services?
     
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    So one still makes minimum wage 20 years on the job is that what you are saying?
     
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    Who works 40 to 60 hours making minimum wage?

    Is this from personal experience?

    I never met anyone that made minimum wage for over a month at the same job
     
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    Increased buying power of the populace would off set the costs of paying people a livable wage.
     
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    Raising the federal minimum wage wouldn't equal more buying power and what exactly is a livable wage?
     
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    You’re making the assumption that anyone who’s working minimum wage would stay in that position for 20 years. Companies don’t make a habit of keeping on labor they see as disposable.
     
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    From 18 to the time that I joined the military I worked two jobs getting about 30hrs a week from each. I didn’t have time to do much more than work and sleep. I did little outside of that and still barely made ends meet.
    I don’t know what job experience you have, but businesses that pay minimum wage aren’t quick to progress peoples’ wages beyond that.
     
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    A livable wage is one that doesn’t leave people in abject poverty. A common indicator of wages being appropriate is percent of income spent on rent/mortgage. Above 25% is problematic. For many, especially those living in cities, staying below that percentage is impossible.
     
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    Why would they let a person go after training them?

    The only way they let people go if they never show up
     
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    So one doesn't realize that voting for people who raise local taxes is the problem and not companies?
     
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    Low skill labor is cheap and easy to replace. Any number of factors can lead to a person losing work at the whim of the employer.
     
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    It depends on what the taxes are for and what is taxed. Your generalized statements do little to support your argument.
     
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    No it's not, Walmart finally realized it hence they raised wages a few years ago
     
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    Walmart has taken steps in the right direction, but its percentage of part time employees that don’t earn a livable wage is still well above industry averages.
     
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    My argument is sound a city like Chicago or Atlanta hasn't had a Republican mayor in almost a hundred years

    It's a huge circle, people keep voting locally for Democrats and watch there rents go up.
     
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    So one thinks a person part time is supposed to live on it?
     
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    How does pinning the issue on one side of the political aisle or the other resolve the issue of people barely earning enough to scrape by in most places?
     
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    No, not at all. Walmart should work to increase its percentage of full time employment opportunities. As should most businesses.
     
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    How can they when they exploit Asian sweat shop labor to sell cheap goods that the public buys?
     
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    One does not want to admit the obvious, the problem is voters in Democrat controlled cities who vote against there own intrest.
     
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    What does that have to do with the percentage of workers in the US that are part time employees? You’re all over the damn place.
     
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    Which cam first mom and pop stores that paid good wages or big box stores? Not that hard to figure out once again it's the peoples fault , the cooperation gave the people what they wanted cheap goods for Asia.


    Profit margins are slim..
     

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