Australia arrests 183 for setting bushfires that celebrities claim were caused by climate change

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  1. politicalcenter

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    Very good attempt at diversion. You seem to be the only poster wanting to know how many fires are caused by climate change verses arson. What has been explained to you is a change in the climate has caused a tinderbox and arson or not , climate change is responsible. And there ain't no tellin how many fire were natural and how many were started on purpose. It ain't science you seek it is conforming evidence to support your side. And you will not accept ANY evidence to the contrary.
     
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    Nope people doing illegal things make it worse.
     
  3. Xenamnes

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    Then ultimately what separates what is called science, from what is ultimately guesswork?
     
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    I've got enough examples but thanks for the offer.
     
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    What we are able to observe, and the ever improving methods by which we make our observations.
    Eventually we do have to make some form of guess. Though science can limit the range of possible guesses we make. I guess that when I stand up from my chair my feet will contact the ground and I will not phase through it. Yet, something so spectacular and unprecedented could happen that would prove that to not be the case. It would prove my guess to be inaccurate and we would have a new understanding of what could happen when or feet contact the ground. That’s of course all hyperbolic, but given the questions science seeks to answer. There’s room for past guesses to be proven untrue.
     
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    https://www.theaustralian.com.au/co...s/news-story/068c2a3d86dfc6a5869c08e9daef2399
     
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    Sorry for your unrealized hopes.
     
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    It is certainly within anyone's right to defend their chosen religion. Others have the equal right to argue against it.
     
  9. Montegriffo

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    Straight out of the playbook.
    Avoid the arguments and discredit the science/evidence as faith/religion.
    Utterly transparent and the resort of someone who knows they've lost the debate.
    Pathetic really.

    Same poster who's earlier attempt to build this strawman failed miserably...
     
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    Here's the truth. Arsonists set the Australian fires. The Australian fires had nothing to do with global warming which occurring according to the IPCC consensus at a rate of 0.03 degrees Centigrade per year.
     
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    I think you’ve learned more than you care to admit. Snide one-liners are to tools of the defeated, seeking to save face.
     
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    A new challenger has approaches! Care to take on any of my posts directed to @drluggit or @Thought Criminal? I can requote them if you’d find it helpful.
     
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    What tactic do you think this one will use?
    My money's on repeating the fake numbers of how many fires were deliberately started.
    10 pf.com bucks says it's that or ''more snow than ever in Iceland''.
     
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    You refuted nothing that I posted. You can call me a heretic all that you want. It changes nothing.

    I don't believe in your religion. Sorry.
     
  15. Montegriffo

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    You didn't post an argument for me to refute.
    An ad hom is not an argument.
     
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    No. I’ve given you all you need to know.
     
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    You've got NOTHING. But it's what we can expect from you.
     
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    Then you shouldn't resort to the use of it.
     
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    Calling "climate change" a religion absurd. Are there people on the climate change side as uninformed as you are? Of course.
     
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    Something which is even worse to this season.

    No, I'm challenging you to provide just ONE SINGLE source because you have to start somewhere. I'd be happy to look at as many relevant sources as you provide.

    Except that you haven't referenced any "groups that study the issue specifically."
     
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    Too rich for my blood. I think you’re betting on a sure thing.
     
  22. DaveBN

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    You’re so coy.
     
  23. DaveBN

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    This was in reply to another poster. Hope you find it helpful.
     
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    Accurate.
     
  25. AFM

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    Droughts are weather phenomena. Just as in California the drought will be followed by well above average rain and snow fall. The drought in Australia has nothing to do with the IPCC 0.03 degrees Centigrade per year consensus warming.
     
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