Australia arrests 183 for setting bushfires that celebrities claim were caused by climate change

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  1. Etbauer

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    Care to explain why you said this?
     
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    I'm not a scientist, and my opinion hasn't been peer reviewed.
     
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    Well there is, it's just not realistic. Shutting down industry IS possible.
     
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    For what?
     
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    The massive fires in Australia vis-a-vis the op.
     
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    Reducing the consumption of resources is a realistic option for every single one of us. It's not popular amongst those who will lose profits or jobs but balanced against the long term economic costs of climate change it makes perfect sense.
    Reducing waste is even more economically desirable.
    The NSW tourism industry has been effectively shut down in many areas. Agriculture and livestock have also been badly affected.
     
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    It’s obvious.
     
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    So all you do is post links which you cannot explain ???
     
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    Of course it is.
     
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    But that is not politically possible. Elected officials in a democracy will be voted out of office and totalitarian governments will not reduce their economic growth to cut CO2 emissions.
     
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    You claimed there was no evidence that global warming will increase droughts and I posted multiple studies which did just that.
     
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    There you go.
     
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    Also, not necessary.
     
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    You don't even know why you said that.
     
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    Models are not data. And the IPCC does not predict increases in frequency and intensity. Plus increases in global average temperature of 0.03 degrees Centigrade per year cannot possibly produce the California or Australian droughts.
     
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    Based on your PHD and decades of studying the subject?
     
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    Yes, my opinions are based on my MS Thermal Systems degree and yes, decades of studying global warming.
     
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    This is an issue that is so politicized that I don't believe either side.

    The only way for me to believe in this, is for me to become my own multi-disciplinary expert, then do my own research, with my own measurements. That won't happen.

    What I go by is my observations of the promoters and adherents of Global Warming. I can't see a difference between that and any other religious fervor.

    Do you believe thar human life will end in ten years?
     
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    Lol, you mean based on no knowledge of the subject and a few fan-fic books?
     
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    That didn't answer my question.
     
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    There is little question that global warming is happening. But the best policy is to maximize economic growth to maximize the wealth available to address any localized problems resulting. Global warming is actually net beneficial.
     
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    Literally nobody thinks that.
     
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    Who has ever said that it will?
     
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    What do you take this to mean?

    "This is an issue that is so politicized that I don't believe either side."
     
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    This ain't hvac buddy.
     

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