Corona Virus Update

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    the republican tea parties only mission was to attack our first black President, as soon as Trump became President, they disappeared
     
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    VotreAltesse Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I know it's incredible, but Obama was a lot of other things than black (and he his half black, I'm always bothered that people negate that part of this legacy), and people didn't liked him also for his actions, even if I don't deny there were some people who disliked him for that.
     
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    No. I saw it at least 24 hours earlier in a different news story.
     
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    I have this vision of the Dems hiding RBG in a bubble in a bunker somewhere like John Travolta.
     
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    It's been refuted by many sources that Trump ever reduced CDC capabilities, but I digress that won't change the echo chamber on what the President did or didn't do. Also, he didn't deny the pandemic, as much as he tried to calm us down about it. Now everyone has their favorite "national emergency" declaration, and as Squidward pointed out: What changed? Nada.

    It literally was a "government do something" that the people needed to see, thus proving conservatives right about the moral weakness of our society. Our economy flourishes based on whether or not Trump utters certain words? No wonder we get punked by the Chinese.

    Biden beat the tar out of Bloomberg, not due to anything Biden did, but what a disgraceful pitiful example of a "campaign" Bloomberg had. At least Trump actually did have campaign rallies, as well as the debates. Bloomberg literally thought his face and a ****ing dollar sign would give him the nomination.

    The sad thing is that it worked to the extent that it did(15% of Democrats). What the HELL is wrong with my former party? What happened to Liberalism from 2012 to now? To side with neoconservatives, to take black market dollars in elections and to no longer advance the common sense policies of middle America?

    In the ideological front, Trump may very well be able to adapt any ideology to suit his political whim of the moment. But Democrats can't even stay to a common message of commoners, which is how they used to not only win elections but to attract that diverse coalition.
     
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    Those things I posted are still happening.
    Tens of thousands of kids are now gathering on beaches across the southern US and mexico.
    They are smashed together in clubs, bumping and grinding, they are swapping bodily fluids, and they are picking each other up for nights of fun at bars across the US, this very day.
    Malls are jammed with kids with no school.
    Wallmarts are jammed with crazed lunatics fighting over TP.

    Flattening the curve?
    Laughable
     
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    So you think there’s no point in even trying to flatten the curve?


    Do you give up on everything so easily?
     
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    Do you frequently piss in fans and wonder why your legs are wet?

    The consequences of the government measures will inflict ten times more misery on the population than this stupid virus ever could
     
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    LOL pot meet kettle.
     
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    I agree.

    Yes. I thought the US rate was simply swings in small numbers, but Italy's closed cases is a significant number, 3,407.

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/italy/

    US is now 56 recovered/62 dead of our concluded cases.
     
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    And every year they grow up a little more.
     
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    Just watch! By this time in April, we'll have 10,000 cases in the U. S. So little accurate testing has been done, it is inevitable! Hell, we still don't even know for sure how long a person can be infected with this virus and show no symptoms at all! Fourteen days? Twenty-one days? Twenty-four days? Thirty days?

    Oh, and how about 'reinfection'...? And, how many weeks can this virus continue to live in a human body without killing the person -- and yet be able to infect other people...? Also, don't forget -- how many weeks can this virus survive on a variety of different surfaces, and even in the open air...?

    While you mull all that over, you may enjoy reading these:
    https://www.latimes.com/world-natio...n-korea-coronavirus-reinfection-test-positive
    https://www.businessinsider.com/wuhan-coronavirus-risk-of-reinfection-2020-2 :cry:
     
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    Here are some N95 masks available....
    CutPaste_2020-03-15_12-22-38-064.jpg
     
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    I don't know what that means. I agree with them. And I spent half of my adult life as a Republican.
     
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    It was only declared a pandemic recently, and Trump has largely stepped back and let Dr. Anthony Fauchi be the public face of the response, which is a smart thing to do.

    But in the beginning, Trump and Co. totally downplayed this. I can provide you with quotes, but I don't need to. I think you'll agree the initial reaction to this was totally botched on all governmental levels. As I've said before, there was a leadership vacuum that could have been perfectly filled by Pelosi, had the Dems been as bold and aggressive with the Coronavirus response as with impeachment, but they sat back and did nothing.

    Leaders can recover from catastrophic blunders. Lincoln had to do it all the time when the North kept losing battle after battle. FDR did after Pearl Harbor. Bush, after 9/11. What none of those Presidents did was downplay the crisis, and they NEVER said anything like "I take no responsibility". Just picture Ike saying that if Overlord had gone wrong. You can't, of course. Eisenhower had integrity. Trump has none.
     
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    I won’t. I haven’t had a shot for anything since I was in the army, ‘88-92.
    I have a coworker that religiously gets his flu shot every year and just as religiously comes down with the flu 3-4 weeks later. I’ll let my immune system do what it was designed to do. I will continue to eat and sleep well, practice personal hygiene, not eat my boogers, and take my vitamins.
     
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    He downplayed it as he should have to reduce the likelihood of a panicked public buying up every roll of toilet paper in the US. It didn't work, too many Democrats.
     
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    Not according to Trump's pointman on this:

    “If you just leave the virus to its own defenses it’ll go way up like we’ve seen in Italy – that’s not going to happen if we do what we’re attempting to do and are doing,” Fauci told CBS’ Margaret Brennan on “Face the Nation.”

    “The way we get ahead of it is, I want people to assume that we’re overreacting because if it looks like you’re overreacting you’re probably doing the right thing,” he added.


    You're a little behind the curve on the messaging coming out of the Trump Whitehouse. They're not downplaying this anymore.
     
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    And now, we may very well be overplaying it. Acting with fear and hysteria(the selling out of toilet paper) is the exact opposite of a response that the CDC/WHO has asked us to take. You may disagree with the words the President has used, but his words and Fauci's are not much different.

    And that's just it: What did the House do? Pass a feel-good spending bill that isn't really(and can't, I'm not expecting them to do anything about viral chemicals in the freaking atmosphere. This in a way, gets to the global warming issue.

    Whether or not humans cause that for example, it's freaking climate-oriented. We, small little humans(by blueprint, we're smaller than skyscrapers who in turn are insignificant from a cubic standpoint on the earth.) can't do crap.

    That's not being nihilist, it's being real. So everytime the left "does something", it goes back to the psychologists who say we humans want control(which is true), I just happen to have learned with age(28 years on this planet) that sometimes control is impossible.

    The government can't do anything. Not a Republican government, nor a democrat government. It's just an excuse to spend more money and say "hey, we're doing something."

    The only ones who can do something, are doing something is the scientific community. We await their response. A politician is not going to save us.
     
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    This is absurd. Trump and Fauci's comments couldn't be further apart.

    KEILAR: So, one week ago, we were reporting 19 deaths, 490 infected.

    Today, the count is at least 60 deaths, almost 3,000 infected. And you say, as we heard, that the virus may continue to get worse for another two months. There have been estimates of hundreds of thousands of people in the U.S. who could die or, in the worst-case scenario, millions.

    Can you tell the American people that that is possible?

    FAUCI: It's possible because, when you do a model, you have a worst-case scenario, the best-case scenario, and the reality is, how you react to that will depend where you're going to be on that curve.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...rreacting_that_means_were_doing_it_right.html

    Compare that to
    "And again, when you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that’s a pretty good job we’ve done."

    Like I said, you don't need me to quote Trump. You'll be hearing all these quotes in campaign ads.
     
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    not to many in the tea party sadly

    if the tea part was really concerned about the debt, they would still be going after Trump, why are they not?
     
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    Now re-read what was said by Fauci, use your logic and understand how ridiculous that sounds. "There's 60 deaths, 3,000 YET there could be hundreds of thousands to millions affected."

    That simply doesn't compute. Whatever models they are working with, are not models in line with the mathematical situation. Maybe my 15K prediction was a little on the low bar, but it's still right around our average per day.

    I will be absolutely stunned at our current infection rate to get anywhere close to 300,000 thousand. It will be flooring if we get even 1 million. Anyone who understands anything about probability knows that these "projections" are coming out of their asses.
     
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    Cuomo said the state has tested 5,272 people, finding positive results for COVID-19 infection in 729 cases. Of those, 137 resulted in hospitalizations.

    This is line with the numbers out of UK and S.K. They're aren't a bunch of asymptomatic people and right around 15% need hospitalization. If we had not taken the steps we took last week, and let this thing infect millions of people in a short amount of time, you would be looking at massive amounts of hospitalizations, which we simply can't handle. And it's still going to get ugly in the next couple of weeks.
     
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