Black man dies after video shows officer kneeling on neck

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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    takes a very special kind of THUG to murder an unarmed man in handcuffs
     
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    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    IOW, there was no violence. The "State police" could not have stopped them from entering the chamber. They did not enter the chamber because they were peaceful demonstrators.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    armed to the teeth, makes them non-peaceful
     
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    I'm torn. The "purposefulness" of his applying his full weight and the length of time he did it while Floyd was cuffed and on the ground of course is what makes this so egregious.

    Here is Second Degree Murder in Minnesota. I'm trying to find a way it will be charged here. Was the officer trying to inflict pain and suffering, I think that is apparent. Was his intent to kill Floyd, that will be hard to prove. Was the officer "attempting to commit a felony offense" again I don't know that can be proved he was acting as an officer arresting someone.

    609.19 MURDER IN THE SECOND DEGREE.
    Subdivision 1.Intentional murder; drive-by shootings.

    Whoever does either of the following is guilty of murder in the second degree and may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than 40 years:

    (1) causes the death of a human being with intent to effect the death of that person or another, but without premeditation; or

    (2) causes the death of a human being while committing or attempting to commit a drive-by shooting in violation of section 609.66, subdivision 1e, under circumstances other than those described in section 609.185, paragraph (a), clause (3).

    §
    Subd. 2.Unintentional murders.

    Whoever does either of the following is guilty of unintentional murder in the second degree and may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than 40 years:

    (1) causes the death of a human being, without intent to effect the death of any person, while committing or attempting to commit a felony offense other than criminal sexual conduct in the first or second degree with force or violence or a drive-by shooting; or

    (2) causes the death of a human being without intent to effect the death of any person, while intentionally inflicting or attempting to inflict bodily harm upon the victim, when the perpetrator is restrained under an order for protection and the victim is a person designated to receive protection under the order. As used in this clause, "order for protection" includes an order for protection issued under chapter 518B; a harassment restraining order issued under section 609.748; a court order setting conditions of pretrial release or conditions of a criminal sentence or juvenile court disposition; a restraining order issued in a marriage dissolution action; and any order issued by a court of another state or of the United States that is similar to any of these orders.

    https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/cite/609.19
     
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    ArmySoldier Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why are you focused on the race of the looters? If they are white, then the looting/burning is suddenly acceptable?
     
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    cuz that's what MAGA does. Focus on the race of the rioters, the judge, the immigrants, etc etc.

    its a great way to stir up the crowd
     
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    Cite from MN murder statutes how this meets the murder standard.
     
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    BasicHumanUnit2 Well-Known Member

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    You just can't make a post without slinging insults can you?

    We don't need to draw conclusions to know that a man is dead who did not get his chance to a fair trial, who was UNARMED and on the ground when he was murdered.
    Also, you are acting as if this is the FIRST time something like this has happened.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    if you kill someone due to force that was clearly negligent, its MURDER
     
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    Stir up the crowd? The alt left looters are literally stirring up a crowd and burning down businesses and assaulting others.

    lol once again hurting your own case. This is funny
     
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    BasicHumanUnit2 Well-Known Member

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    Seriously?
     
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    In 1967 a group of gun carrying Black Panthers conducted a protest on the steps of the California Statehouse. This action was applauded by the left. Fast forward a few decades and conservatives doing the exact same thing are called by "armed thugs" by the left.
     
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    who was assaulted?
     
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    No, it is not funny.
    We have serious problems in our society that are resulting in the deaths of potentially innocent people.
    The Justice and Law enforcement systems may be broken.
    It's so incredibly easy to laugh at the pain of others when you are totally insulated from their pain and suffering.
    Nothing about this is funny.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    that was 50 years ago, bro

    :p
     
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    in either case, if the armed protest was lawful, then no one should call either group "thugs"
     
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    We know he was cuffed from the other video. We know he was on the ground on his stomach under control. We know he went into physical distress in fact the police had called for an ambulance prior because he was having a medical issue. We can clearly see the officer holding him down with almost his entire weight on that knee for almost 7 minutes.

    What we have not seen is what happened when they first took him to the police car to put him where the alleged resisting took place. But whatever resisting took place that fight was over, he was on the ground in their control.
     
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    The names were not released.

    So far, because of the protests, one looter has been killed by a shop owner protecting his store.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...lis-police-protests-fires-looting/5272579002/

    Also, the Liberal Mayor describes the protests as "Extremely violent" and to call for peace.

    I imagine more violence will escalate. The Alt Left radicals never learn.
     
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    I have no problems with this cop going to prison, if the jury goes that way. And I do not root for people like the deceased to be killed. Just do not waste my time wailing and gnashing my teeth over it.
     
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    You never answered why you excuse the looting/arson because they are white people.
     
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    Don't want to upset fake narratives that "MAGA is racist" and "2nd Amendment only applies to white people".

    She "ain't black", according to Joe Biden. Now there's a narrative. ;)


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    thats cuz it didnt happen.

    no evidence= no event
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    sure, there's always a random outlier.

    remember that ONE black guy at Trump's rally?



    LOLOL!!!!
     
  24. The Wyrd of Gawd

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    That is traditional American justice. If the elite wanted to do what is right they would have immediately arrested the thug cops for first degree murder. So now they need motivation to do their jobs.
     
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    Yes, we have. Posts 739 & 740

     

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