Trump's crazy designation of Antifa as terrorist organization

Go look up the crime statistics....perpetrators by race.

 

CNN!

 

Let’s cut to the chase.

You want me to say yes to contradict me saying antifa has killed no one. But it’s not a contradiction, you would require evidence to suggest antifa orchestrated the mass murder, which there is none. You can’t even link this loser to any active participation outside social media sharing. You’re not even grasping at straws, you’re grasping at a hologram of straw.

 

So start out stating that "committing an act that that frightens the general public" is terrorism - if the act is intended to frighten/cause fear among the general public.

While I agree that this is normally part of a terrorist action - not all such actions intended to cause fear are terrorism - and I am not talking a roller coaster. Where an action is done to intentionally cause fear in the public - such as setting a police car on fire.

I agree that Antifa does not rise to the terrorist bar- but it could be argued they have done things intended to cause fear in others - even though they do not scare you.

To me terrorism normally involves the killing of innocents - or threat of serious harm by example - say chopping a few heads on a regular basis of those who would disagree with you - thus inducing fear in the general public - or something that rises to this level.

I don't think setting a police car on fire (with no one in it and no intent to harm any person) because someone is pissed off at "the Man" rises to that bar. . and in any case Arson already carries a serious penalty.

This narrative - "Lets play the terrorism card and invoke more punishment for this act of civil disobedience so we can tak on a few extra years" strikes me as somewhat gratuitous.

I think the Rule of Law principle "Punishment should fit the Crime" - is in danger of being violated.

 

Yes, I'd like you to acknowledge reality. And no, I don't think that I need any "vidence to suggest antifa orchestrated the mass murder" any more than people on the other side need evidence to suggest that white supremacist groups orchestrated those murders.

Motives are often-times difficult to pin down. That's why I've steered away from trying to identify the motives for various bad acts. AFAICT, all the "white supremacists have killed more people than _____" "studies" made no effort at all to ascertain if white supremacy was the motive behind the killing. They simply find someone who had showed some support for a white supremacist ideology and had killed someone and assigned those murders to "white supremacists", regardless of whether they were "orchestrated" (your word) by a white supremacist group or not. If that's the standard we're going to operate under for assigning blame for some murders to white supremacists, then those same standards impeach Antifa for Conner Betts' murder spree. If you don't like those standards, I'd suggest you not try to apply them to white supremacists.

 

Arsonists should be shot on site, like the hostis humani generis they are. I'd prefer to see such a bright line rule adopted rather than trying to create complicated guidance for would-be arsonists about when arson should be strictly prohibited and when it should merely be frowned at, a little bit, if you get caught, and then only if you're white. The arsonists have already set fire to several occupied structures, and attempted to do the same to occupied vehicles, during these riots. Let's put a stop to that much, at least.

 

I’m not going around saying white supremacy is a terrorist organization, or that white supremacists should be stripped of constitutional rights. Bring your complaints to someone who shares that view. Don’t burden me with your sophistry.

 

There is a distinction between an occupied structure such as an apartment building - and an unoccupied car

 

You didn't prove Antifa supporter.

 

Who is the leader? With proof.

 

I'm not, at present, arguing that Antifa should be stripped of constitutional rights, or that they are a terrorist organization either. I'm merely disproving the claim you made here:

 

Your claim is a falsehood - I did not use anything false from the link to back up my opinion - and the rest of your post partisan gibberish - which is pretty much the extent of your capability.

 

I don't know why I bother linking and quoting stuff for you if you're not going to read it. Why don't you go back to my post and see if you can find the phrases "tweets supporting Antifa, or anti-fascist, protesters" and "replying with expressions that seemed to support the anti-fascist movement"?

 

Antifa is a figment of your imagination - that has grown from a small grain of sand into a large tumor.

Who is the leader - and membership ? I didn't see too many with Antifa badges looting the target store. Is there a secret handshake ? Ya can't be a Terrorist org without a secret handshake.

 

Won't change the fact that you got fooled !

 

Have you considered a career in public speaking? Very convincing "argument" you have there.

 

Glad you liked it .. so what do you think .. Antifa - Big Bad Terrorist - or what !

 

Just common street punks, masquerading behind a "cause".

 

Oh ... thank you for this given penalty shot without any goal keeper!

Go ...
Take a look at the social development in the USA, i.e. topics such as equal opportunities, educational opportunities, who is most affected by social cuts, which right wing governments always like to do ... or just briefly: Which race is the poorer in percentage!
There were and are always criminal careers the only remaining alternative ... even earlier than it did not concern the black ones, because there were others, e.g. the Irish or the Italians among immigrants!

ROFL ... Trump learns from CNN about how to spread Fake News???
I think you mean Fox News, isn't it? Anyway ... both are crappy BS media, one lefty and one righty BS media!

 

Agreed .. so what about the rest of the movement - and the issues that led to this chaos.

Do you think perhaps it is God's punishment ?-- the plagues prior to the apocalypse !?

We have the Charismatic Leader - Corona - a plague - then we had the shale oil ponzi scheme collapse - and now civil unrest -
we have wars and rumors of war - space force threatening to reign fire from above - just like the good book says.

The great Babylon has fallen - no one wants to buy our stuff - anymore .. just like the good book says ..

or perhaps just one of the normal cycles in history playing out once again.

 

Even better, please tell us why you defend them?

 

"When debate is lost slander becomes the tool of the loser"

 

I looked specifically for antifa. Didn't see it.
If you link something with the pertinent info in it. Copy/Paste it.
People are not going to search through articles to find out if what you linked is accurate. Often times to find out the claim isn't in there.

So, link the proof, copy/paste the pertinent paragraph or sentence to show it's in the link.
If those phrases are in there, copy/paste them. It's up to you to prove your source. Not for others to dig through to see if it's there or not.