Trump's crazy designation of Antifa as terrorist organization

Please tell us what acts of Terrorism - Antifa has committed.

Please tell us how you know all these holligans are "Leftists" ... what a bunch of nonsense. This is when the left tries to equate a few right wing nazi's with the whole party.

You are way over simplifying a much larger issue. "Antifa" did not cause this - Bad Law/Legislation caused this .. way to much police power and - and way too much immunity from prosecution for dirty deeds.

This is basic sociology at work.

 

No thanks. I already told you that I'm not going to waste my time playing that idiotic game.

You've been on PF longer than I have. You cannot possibly have not seen the evidence to back my assertions.

Why are you doing this?

 

antifa has incited blacks to do violence against whites, they are funded by george soros and democrat zionists.

republican zionists are the good ones who support Israel and law and order, they are against terrorism.

 

No we were talking about what your OP said which was based on a link you used to formulate your opinion and I showed you the very first paragraph of your source and your OP were complete BS. From now on you might want to check and make sure your link is not a pack of lies before you use it to justify your opinion .
You’re welcome


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”Thanks to the First Amendment, the US government has historically avoided designating domestic groups on both the left and right as terrorist.“


Myth busted.
From Tree-Hugger to Terrorist

”Using the F.B.I.'s definition of the term, Critter is a domestic terrorist. Almost two years ago, he and an accomplice were caught after they firebombed a Chevrolet dealership in Eugene, Ore. He says he did it to punish carmakers and consumers for their love affair with the gas-hogging S.U.V. Although the pair never claimed the bombing on behalf of the Earth Liberation Front (E.L.F.) -- the eco-terror group that has inflicted, along with its ally the Animal Liberation Front (A.L.F.), more than $43 million in damage on farmers, scientists, foresters, universities, housing developers and business owners -- their crime fit the profile of a classic E.L.F. action. Critter, 28, pleaded guilty and got five and a half years.”


https://www.nytimes.com/2002/04/07/magazine/from-tree-hugger-to-terrorist.html

 

I have no idea what your assertions are with respect to this issue - and this is not an "idiotic game". The reason we are here is because folks can not understand that bad law/legislation has consequences.

 

Nope - This is way bigger than Antifa .. and has everything to do with bad law/legislation. It is the police that have that have incited blacks.

Red Establishment hates the rule of law and loves terrorism - just like Israel.

 

I used the link to get the conversation started .. not to formulate my opinion. that was formed decades ago.

You are dazed and confused .. once again.

 

A perfect storm of state brutality, economic anxiety, and incompetent authority. The last illustrated by this absurd declaration of terrorism.

The war on terror came with a cost of liberty for temporary security, a few warned that it was only a matter of time before our foreign policy turned into domestic policy. The temporary security has passed, but the liberty is gone, and now they’re looking to make another Faustian deal. I applaud those who can stand by their principals, but the foul display of brain rot is quite jarring.

 

Then you or no one else knows who or what antifa is. Just a name tRUMP can rally the troops around without any merit.

 

Link?
Or made up. Lets see if you have a link. A real one.

 

What does that have to do with the hire group?
You don't think they can't hire different looking groups of people?

 

So you admit your link was a bunch of crap. Works for me and thank you

 

This was combined with decline of our economic hegemony and outsourcing of our manufacturing base - increased power of the oligopolies - and a massive increase in the incarceration rate .. in many cases for the crime of smoking pot.

The war on drugs was mostly a war on Pot - as that what was most of the resources and time was spent on. The purpose of this war had nothing to do with drugs - and everything to do with increasing Gov't/Police power while trampling on essential liberty. This turned our police into storm troopers ... corruption and violence skyrocketed.

Was this a surprise ? - did we figure somehow that power would not corrupt and more power would not corrupt more ? Of course this would be true of the general public - who are generally self serving, arrogant, controlling, and a host of other unpleasant things.

It was not "One bad apple" Police are people too. Not only are police not on a pedistal .. they are worse than the average person in the "Control issue" department .

This is anecdotal but - having 3 older sisters - I have always had many women around me - simply because I have a tinge more understanding of the opposite sex than the average Joe. .. in an case .. can't tell you how many times one of my friends would be dating a cop .. always turned out to be control freak issues. Later .. when I was in my late 30's early 40's - been there done that bought the T-shirt - a friend of mine - roughly around my age at the time - told me "got a new guy" .. was a cop. Told her directly .. what are you thinking .. control freak. She says yeah .. I know ... but he is really nice - meaning "this one is different" .. I said "come on" who are you trying to kid.. and we had a lengthy discussion.. so she.shacked up with the guy .. 6 mo later - poof .. the real colors come out.

Then - the next one "got a new guy" ... "what does he do" ? Another Cop. I am like OMG .. what are you thinking.
Finally she found some native new zealander ... like the native indians - but its all mixed like Brazil.

anyway .. at some point - things become more than anecdote.

So lets give a "Control Freak" segment of the population more power - and see what happens.

OH OH .. surprise surprise !!

 

I didn't say the link was a bunch of crap - but it had nothing to do with formulation of an opinion.

Not sure if you are familiar with the "Current Events" thread rules .. but the title has to be from the link .. and you have to post from it. I Chose something remotely related to what I wanted to discuss ...

My commentary does not necessarily reflect the same perspective of CNN .. and it is this that you seem to have trouble grasping ... and you want to dwell on mindless rabbit holes .. somehow trying to link me to some mindless delusion that you have concocted.

The topic is this Joe - 1) the definition of terrorism 2) the definition of terrorist group

I have given a number of examples - and have others - of both.

Did you have a definition that you wanted to try to defend ?

 

"I have no idea what your assertions are with respect to this issue..."

That is horsepucky! You have already shown, by your flawed attempts to refute it, that you know what my assertion is.

Why are you now moving to denial? This is getting more absurd with each post. What the heck?

Here is a refresher:
The Antifa-terrorists are terrorists!

Does that sound, at all, familiar? Maybe it reminds you of something? Like my original assertion, perhsps?

Jeez! This is why I say that it is senseless to argue with anyone on PF.

 

They are black racists and fall more to the right black supremcy area like the white supremcy do ... or are these white supremcy people suddenly lefties?
If you say no ... why do black racists shall be lefties, eh?

 

They want with their lootings the same as what all criminals want to accomplish with their crimes ...
And as far as sheer destruction is concerned ... this happens frequently and is not just the case with ANTIFA. Take ... just as an example from many ... the riots in Los Angeles 1992. But there was nothing "lefty" or "ANTIFA" ... and yet there were masses of crimes, acts of violence, looting and arson.

And it is simply a fairy tale that ANTIFA is a structured organization with regional, national or even global leadership. This is simply nonsense! ANTIFA is a collection of the most diverse, left-wing radical, anti-fascist and also quite anarchist and Marxist groups.
Even if I am a hate of Nazis and racists ... I also make it clear that those who are violent at ANTIFA are just as much scum as KKK, Nazis, White Supremacy etc.

The question was asked what was the difference between Al Qaeda and ANTIFA in terms of offenses etc.
Well ... the difference is that Al Qaeda had a structured organization with Bin Laden as a leader and there were other leaders in person ... there is no such thing at ANTIFA.

 

I will do, because this BS blabbering started by Trump must be coiuntetred with real facts ... the only way to stop this king of fake news in White House and all those who follow him with switched off brains.

 

No ... but the complete term of terrorist is BS and irrelevant in general since a longer time ... in detail ... irrelevant snce it became fashion on ths planet to demonize his enemies and opponents with this term "terrorist".

Tell me, why do you ... the USA ... support the YPG Kurds in Syria in fight against the IS as an ally ... when Turkey tells that YPG are all evil terrorists?
Are you Americans supporting terrorists ... or tells Turkey BS about that YPG Kurds are terrorists?

The same is given here in core with ANTIFA ... and all the crimes in detail, when you took a closer look. When packs of whites and blacks storm a Wall Mart store and plunder it ... are they for you automatically all ANTIFA members? Really?

And why are Islamist terrorist significant and any of their attacks is highlighted ... when they did not even a third of what eas kille dby righty extremists?

 

Lol ... I would say yu should look into a mirrr to see the misinformed one ... only a suggestion

 

Break thru the CNN propaganda bubble. Where ever ANTIFA goes violence follows them, not just once or twice by dang near every time.

 

If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State. - Joseph Goebbels

 

Take the blinders off. I doubt there are many white supremacists among the BLM folks.

 

I fully support him declaring this group of terrorist a terrorist organization.

So I disagree with you

you'll have to ask people who make those decisions.

I couldn't possibly give less of a crap about antifa getting their name dragged through the mud.

No idea what you're talking about.

 

Sounds like Trump use Gobbels as instruction for his fake news spreading ...