So Texas is going in the Toilet

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  1. drluggit

    drluggit Well-Known Member

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    Why not address the point raised? Why continue to write about what isn't being discussed?
     
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    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You are aware that the population of the Houston Metropolitan area is approximately the same size as New York City....and that George Floyd was from Houston and is now buried in Houston?
     
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    Ok.. TX has done 2.4M tests. Total, TX has ~195K cases and less than 1300 deaths total. Which translates into 13% of the population, tested. More testing to happen. For 19M folks, that represents about 1% infection rate and less than .01% death rates.
     
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    I am addressing the point. You stated IF you are forced by our Government to wear a mask and you get sick, you want to sue. Since nobody is FORCING you to wear a mask, whatever point you are attempting to make is a farce.
     
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    Not true as of Friday. Masks are mandated in Texas (counties with more than 20 cases). Non-wearers get one warning. Second offense costs up to $250 per infraction. Every establishment requires a mask.
     
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    drluggit Well-Known Member

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    Every time I leave the house, I am forced by the order. What about that do you not seem to get?
     
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    I kind of like the Nixon mask, but the "scream" mask is also fun.
     
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    Funny replies on Gov. Abbott's Twitter....

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    So don't go out if you don't want to wear a mask. Order all your goods online and have them delivered to your home where you can be mask free. Again, nobody is forcing you to visit these establishments. If you choose to go out and visit these establishments, you need to follow the establishments rules. No shoes, No shirt, No pants, No masks, No business.
     
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    Nobody is forcing you to leave your home.
     
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    This is true. No one is. And of course no ones is requiring me to stay in it,, are they>.. soooo...... You still haven't answered why you're not addressing the part where government is peddling a curative measure.
     
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    Nice. I like the "nobody is forcing you to" argument. I'll make sure I keep it in my pocket for future economic discussions.
     
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    I addressed your part. Sue away until your heart is content. I wish you luck.
     
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    My reaction to the video of AntiFa painting over spy cameras in NYC was surprisingly positive.
    Probably why I have not seen more videos of them doing that.
     
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    Fake Political Science Kills

    As Fauci pointed out from the start, the masks are useless.
    All the "experts" have known that even as they demanded that masks be worn.

    “Face Masks

    In our systematic review, we identified 10 RCTs that reported estimates of the effectiveness of face masks in reducing laboratory-confirmed influenza virus infections in the community from literature published during 1946–July 27, 2018. In pooled analysis, we found no significant reduction in influenza transmission with the use of face masks (RR 0.78, 95% CI 0.51–1.20; I2 = 30%, p = 0.25) (Figure 2). One study evaluated the use of masks among pilgrims from Australia during the Hajj pilgrimage and reported no major difference in the risk for laboratory-confirmed influenza virus infection in the control or mask group (33). Two studies in university settings assessed the effectiveness of face masks for primary protection by monitoring the incidence of laboratory-confirmed influenza among student hall residents for 5 months (9,10). The overall reduction in ILI or laboratory-confirmed influenza cases in the face mask group was not significant in either studies (9,10).”

    Volume 26, Number 5—May 2020, Policy Review, Nonpharmaceutical Measures for Pandemic Influenza in Nonhealthcare Settings—Personal Protective and Environmental Measures, Jingyi Xiao1, Eunice Y. C. Shiu1, Huizhi Gao, Jessica Y. Wong, Min W. Fong, Sukhyun Ryu, and Benjamin J. Cowling, Author affiliations: University of Hong Kong, Hong Kong, China

    https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article
     
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    So don't wear a mask. Also, quit your crying if a business won't let you in for not wearing one. Your choice. I am sure you can get your goods somewhere else where you can be mask free.
     
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    Here's how some mother in Texas feels after her teenage daughter was hospitalized with pleurisy from wearing a mask 8 hours a day, 5 days a week at work.


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    Dr. Anthony Fauci said Friday the reason the public was advised not to wear masks at the beginning of the coronavirus pandemic was that there were too few to go around.
    In an interview with the financial-news site TheStreet, Fauci, the US government's foremost infectious-diseases expert, was asked about the changing government advice on wearing masks.

    In January through March, as the spread of the disease became more and more serious, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention actively discouraged the use of masks among the general public.
    By early April, simple cloth face coverings were recommended for the general public, instead of protective personal equipment such as surgical and N95 masks

    Fauci explained the early advice against masks by saying: "The public-health community — and many people were saying this — were concerned that it was at a time when personal protective equipment, including the N95 masks and the surgical masks, were in very short supply."

    N95 masks are higher-grade equipment than ordinary masks and mainly used by medical workers.

    He added that the government did not want healthcare workers "to be without the equipment that they needed ... We were afraid that that would deter away the people who really needed it."

    The government also knows more about the effectiveness of different types of masks than it did at the beginning, he said.
    "Now we have masks, and we know that you don't need an N95 if you're an ordinary person in the street," he said. "We also know that simple cloth coverings that many people have can work as well as a mask in many cases."
    Fauci acknowledged the appearance of a contradiction in the government's public-health advice but denied this was the case. "Actually the circumstances have changed," he said. "That's the reason why."

     
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    It would be better if our "experts" stopped producing and promoting Fake Science.

    "1. Threat level: On Jan. 21, the day the first COVID-19 case in the U.S. was confirmed, National Institutes of Allergies and Infectious Diseases director Anthony Fauci appeared on conservative Newsmax TV and said: “Obviously, you need to take it seriously and do the kind of things the CDC and the Department of Homeland Security is doing. But this is not a major threat to the people of the United States, and this is not something that the citizens of the United States right now should be worried about.”

    By April 1, CDC Director Robert Redfield would be saying, “This is the greatest public health crisis that has hit this nation in more than 100 years.”"

    "From the start, the public health establishment has projected an air of certitude in its advice and policy prescriptions on COVID-19 belied by a record of error on many of the central questions."
    JUST THE NEWS, Erosion of trust: 10 things public health establishment got wrong about coronavirus, By Michael Fumento, June 17, 2020.
    https://justthenews.com/politics-po...s-public-health-establishment-got-wrong-about
     
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    The important comment here. "the circumstances changed". Not the medical analysis changed, or the forensics changed. Just the circumstances. Public opinion changed. For sure. So, whoops, everyone wear a mask. It's a panacea and nothing more. Folks understand that, and we recognize it for what it is. And yet, you, for example would refer to others as reckless absent any medical, or scientific, rationale for it.

    I wonder when the court of public opinion will change back when folks start getting really sick because they simply followed the curative order of government here.
     
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    Conspiracy theory nonsense.
     
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    IOW, our experts are tying themselves into knots to avoid admitting the obvious truth - they lie like rugs.

    "2. Masks: “Seriously people — STOP BUYING MASKS!” So tweeted Surgeon General Jerome Adams on Feb. 29. “They are NOT effective in preventing [the] general public from catching #Coronavirus, but if healthcare providers can't get them to care for sick patients, it puts them and our communities at risk!”

    The CDC initially said, ... But "if you are NOT sick," it added, "you do not need to wear a facemask unless you are caring for someone who is sick (and they are not able to wear a facemask).” That link now leads to the declaration with a subheading in large letters: “Cover your mouth and nose with a cloth face cover when around others.”

    "U.S. Surgeon General

    @Surgeon_General
    Seriously people- STOP BUYING MASKS!""

    JUST THE NEWS, Erosion of trust: 10 things public health establishment got wrong about coronavirus, By Michael Fumento, June 17, 2020.
    https://justthenews.com/politics-po...s-public-health-establishment-got-wrong-about
     
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    Right...it's all a big conspiracy to get rich off people buying masks. Hahaha
     
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