Supreme Court splits on Trump tax cases, potentially shielding returns until after election

Supreme Court splits on Trump tax cases, potentially shielding returns until after election

A brilliant decision with a little for everyone.

 

Biden already released his taxes. You can find them on his website.

In fact, all of the Democratic candidates released their tax returns.

 

I don't think his ego will allow him to resign. It would be admitting defeat. In fact, I fear that if he loses (and it certsinly loojs lije he will lose), he'll claim that "it was rigged!" and refuse to cede the election results. I predict a big recount drama.

 

You still do not understand the process. 1, the court did not force the turnover of the financial records. They returned the case to the lower court for a do-over. 2, the fight is only over turning over records to a grand jury subpoena. It is not about the DA and grand jury then getting an indictment and then taking it to court. That cannot be done.

 

Sigh ...

This SCOTUS decision was not about Trump releasing his tax returns to the public. A New York court that is investigating his businesses subpoenaed his financial records, including tax returns. He fought the subpoena all the way to the Supreme Court and lost. This decision means that he will have to comply with the New York prosecutor's request for those documents. It does not mean that he now has to publicize his tax returns.

 

The decision also means that Trump's claims of absolute immunity aren't going to work. If he wants to block subpoenas, he'll need a different strategy. And they can't indict him yet.

 

I wonder if a pardon would also apply to the many charges of obstruction of justice he's likely to be facing once he's out of office.

 

Mind boggling, isn't it? It's like he cast a spell, and millions of people fell under that spell.

 

As I said elsewhere SCOTUS did not so rule.

Technically that is correct but in effect it told congress to go pound sand because it is impossible for congress to reissue their subpoenas legally. There are no applicable details -- meaning they do not exist -- why congress needs or has a right to the documents.

 

Why not?

 

There were two decisions. The one in which Trump was trying to defy a subpoena for his businesses' financial documents went against him. He will now have to comply with the lower court's request or make a good caee 8f why he should not have to.

The other decision went against the various congressional committees who also issued subpoenas for his financial documents. SCOTUS told them their subpoenas were too broad in scope and they had to redo them, showing details of why they need each document or set of documents.

 

I agree with that decision. If congress can't show good cause as to why they need certain documents, then they are just fishing.

 

Because no DA anywhere can indict or charge a sitting president for anything.

 

There's actually a lot of debate about that. Regardless, however, even if they can't indict him right now, they can indict him later and start the investigation now. Plus, they can still bring charges against the Trump Organization itself.

 

Obviously.

BUT, all that really matters NOW is that the Voters won't see the records before the Election.

 

And that is written where? Please to point out...

 

Maybe we could deport him to a Russian gulag? Just wishful thinking ...

 

He can go into the Kim Philby Wing of the Hall of Heroes in the Kremlin.... right next to the Robert Hanssen display...

 

Two things:

1. The 4th amendment guards us against "unreasonable" searches and seizures. Apparently, the subpoena from the New York cort was not deemed unreasonable by the SCOTUS, or rather, Trump's lawyers did not show just cause for why he should not have to comply with the subpoena.

2. https://legalbeagle.com/8676593-subpoena-vs-warrant.html

 

The theory goes that the replacement candidate would be Mike Pence, who would be guaranteed to allow the Republicans to retain the evangelical portion of Trump's base and probably even increase it some. To my knowledge Pence is also in good stead with the NRA so the Repubs could theoretically retain the 2nd Amendment folks too. However, when it comes to energy, Pence makes Joe Biden look like Mick Jagger.

 

I'm pretty sure that once they become part of the court record, they will be public via the FOIA.

 

If you're a Democrat and the question relates to other members of your party the answer is yes.

 

But do you really think that matters? Do you think that supporters - if shown fraud and blatant tax criminality - would stop their support? Do you think that those who are undecided are waiting for the information? Do you really think there are undecided at this point?

 

Why don't we sum-up this latest collectivist charade of the political Left in their perpetual attempt to 'get' Trump? Here you are:

 

The charges are against Trump's business interests, by a New York court. The court wants the grand jury to see Trump Enterprise's financial records, such as bank statements, loan requests, and so forth, in addition to his corporation's taxes. This isn't about his personal tax returns.

This isn't about anything coming from an IRS audit. When the IRS audits you and finds errors or taxes they think you still owe, they don't take you to court. They send you certified mail detailing what you owe, including interest and penalties. If you refuse to pay, then they may indict you.