We are in a truth emergency

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Patricio Da Silva, Jul 12, 2020.

  1. TOG 6

    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    Says he who does not understand the people - majority, minority or otherwise - do not elect, and have not ever elected, the President.
    As intended.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Good response - but Biden is - so - you should not be voting Blue on this basis. IMO. That was the straw that broke the camels back for me.

    In any case -we can give other examples - "Russia Harmed our electoral Process" "Those were Moderates Obama was arming in Syria" and so on.

    How about the Lie that Blue has made a significant change to the Healthcare Oligopolies.

    How about the Lie that Blue has any respect for the principles of classical liberalism.
     
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    You would actually have to read them, so...
     
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    Breitbart is on TV here locally if I cared to bother and four channel is on line if I actually cared. I don't bother with Alex Jones crap either.
     
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    So you pull their talking points out of your own ass? Nice to know...
     
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    Nope I do exactly what I said earlier. I collect data, collate, figure out how it fits together, assemble it examine it. Discard what I know to be false, and whatever is left must be as close an approximation to the truth as is humanly possible to derive. From this process I have determined that the average leftist never lies. In order to lie one must have some idea as to where the truth may be found, and the average leftist is neither sufficiently intellectually rigorous enough nor sufficiently intellectually honest enough to conduct the search.

    Hence Reagan nailed the truth, during his time, when he said, "It is not so much that our friends on the left are evil, as it is that they believe so many things that just aren't so."
     
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  7. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    No, because Trump views climate change as a hoax, and as such, poses a threat to the planet for not acting quick on this.

    Not to mention the thousands of other reasons I would not vote for Trump.
     
  8. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    If the EC worked as it was intended, a guy like Trump would have never been elected president.
    https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...p-men-like-trump-from-being-president/508310/
    .It is “desirable,” Alexander Hamilton wrote in Federalist 68, “that the sense of the people should operate in the choice of” president. But is “equally desirable, that the immediate election should be made by men most capable of analyzing the qualities adapted to the station.” These “men”—the electors––would be “most likely to possess the information and discernment requisite to such complicated investigations.” And because of their discernment—because they possessed wisdom that the people as a whole might not—“the office of President will never fall to the lot of any man who is not in an eminent degree endowed with the requisite qualifications.”

    In an age where a state has 40 million people and another almost 20 million, a plight no forefather could have foreseen, given that the EC has been emasculated and has become nothing more than a rubber stamp, the EC has outlived it's usefulness. If Dems achieve control, things are going to change. We're going to make sure a dangerous and stupid man, a man who is egregiously unfit for office and morally corrupt as Donald Trump, never has a chance to become president, ever again.
     
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    There is a difference between what a politician says and what they do. The biggest liar on this question is Biden by in both words and actions.

    I agree there are 1000 other reasons not to vote Trump but, these do not equal the big reason I am not voting Biden.
     
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    Statistics can't prove anything.

    But it's called the Queen of Science for a reason, it's one of the most commonly used tools on the planet. It works.

    You've got nothing, but why would this time be different?
     
  11. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Any vote for anyone but Biden is a vote for Trump. It's a binary choice. And to not choose helps Trump, as well.
     
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    You just made a great case for the anachronistic nature of the EC and why it needs to be abolished.
     
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    "What you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening." The Orange Menace
     
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    ^^^
    Hyper-partisan fearmongering
    The only reason you won;t vote for Trump is he as an (R) next to his name.
     
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    Hillary won CA by 4 million votes.
    Hillary "won" the fallacious "popular vote" by 3 million votes.
    This means she lost the other 50 elections by a net 1 million votes
    Thus: It worked exactly as intended.

    Fact remains:
    You choose to not understand the people - majority, minority or otherwise - do not elect, and have not ever elected, the President.
     
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    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    ... and yet you STILL believe your point about correlation means something.
    :lol:
     
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    You choose to understand nothing.

    https://fivethirtyeight.com/feature...e-used-to-be-bipartisan-position-not-anymore/
     
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    That's because that's what worked.

    As opposed to what we are doing.

    Btw, science uses stats all the time, proofs, not so much.

    I realise all you have is trolling, but this is idiocy.
     
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    You continue to rest on a post hoc fallacy.
    You cannot demonstrate the necessary relationship between 'strong central governments' and the success of education and CV-19 response in the nation with same.
    And so, while you may illustrate correlation, you know you have no hope to demonstrate causation.
     
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    What part of "Trump is better than Biden" is not getting through. Do you not care about the planet ?
     
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    Yeah, we’re in an emergency with the pandemic, economy, and on the cusp of the hurricane season.

    We’re about to get pummeled. It’s not political merely a confluence of events. As we’ve seen we don’t have the competence at the top of the Federal government and many state governments to manage it.
     
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    You make a thread about truth and then site your source from a FAKE NEWS network?

    NICE!
     
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    What is this, the 1800s?
     
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    No.
    It's you demonstrating to everyone that you know you have no hope to demonstrate causation.
     
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    Like nearly everyone in this century, or the last one, a strong correlation works just fine.

    Yeah, I took a methods class in college.

    You are trying to troll me so I will get angry.

    Good luck.
     

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