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Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Patricio Da Silva, Jul 12, 2020.

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  1. The Centrist

    The Centrist Well-Known Member

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    Of course he lies. Specious rhetoric got him elected.
     
    The Centrist, Jul 13, 2020
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  2. (original)late

    (original)late Banned

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    Baloney.

    Also baloney.

    You're confusing bias with an agenda. Bias is inevitable, an agenda is not.
     
    (original)late, Jul 13, 2020
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  3. TOG 6

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    You know your statement, above, is false.
     
    TOG 6, Jul 13, 2020
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  4. TOG 6

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    Hillary Clinton got him elected.
     
    TOG 6, Jul 13, 2020
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    And bias is better than agenda how? Not to mention which the difference is scant if any.
     
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  6. The Centrist

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    Don’t disagree, but it doesn’t negate the point.
     
    The Centrist, Jul 13, 2020
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    Yes but who told you that? CNN.

    So we are caught in a logical circle here.


    Hindu to Muslim: "Your religion is wrong because my religion says so"
    Muslim to Hindu: "Your religion is wrong because my religion says so"

    It's an argument that's not going to get anywhere.
     
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  8. (original)late

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    Not being able to see the difference doesn't mean it's small or unimportant, quite the contrary..

    Everyone has bias, if you're from New England, you hate the Yankees...

    An agenda would be sending Guiliani to Ukraine to create a fake story for propaganda, using Russian money to slime the Yankees.
     
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    But it's generally what gets everyone elected these days in the era of the thirty second sound when the overwhelming majority of voters are not policy wonks.
     
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    Name a politician, any politician, who does not knowingly and deliberately engage in intellectual dishonesty.
     
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    You provide no support for your point.
     
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  12. The Centrist

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    Specious Rhetoric:
    -promised to pay off the debt in eight years
    -promised to build a wall and have Mexico pay for it
    -promised a new health care plan to replace PPACA

    Too many voters were gulled into believing it.
     
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    Interesting that you have no idea what an agenda is. The above would be a plot, were it true, not an agenda. It might be in the furtherance of an agenda but it isn't. Your agenda might be determined by your bias, as in the case of your Yankees might cause you to root in favor of the team playing them. The clear bias of the alphabet soup media is in ever bigger government, so in order to support that bias there agenda is to promote Democrats and Trash Republicans especially small government Republicans.
     
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    These are campaign promises.
    Every candidate makes campaign promises they fail to deliver on -- are all such people guilty of specious rhetoric?
     
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    As opposed to the promises of Barack Obama, relating to how if an individual likes their physician and healthcare plan, they can keep both?
     
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    He's reading you at the moment. Why do you ask?
     
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    Okay:roll:
     
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  18. The Centrist

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    Specious rhetoric. Exactly
     
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    And thus, every President was elected on specious rhetoric.
    What's your point?
     
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  20. Patricio Da Silva

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    It's a question of degree. Sure, politicians do it to some extent, but Trump does it on a level that would make P.T Barnum smile.

    That is the distinction many on the right are unable to see, except for those on the right such as the Lincoln project, etc.
     
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  21. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Feel free to defy any comment made in the video.

    Your inability to do that because you know you can't, IS the reason the conversation is not going anywhere.
     
    Patricio Da Silva, Jul 13, 2020
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    You cannot demonstrate this to be true.
     
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  23. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    The video proves it. If you can't refute the content of the video, you have conceded the point.
     
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    I accept your concession.
    Feel free to try again.
     
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  25. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Never heard of it.

    Care to be specific? Remember, you are replying to a comment in which I was alleged to have believed in lies.

    So, name one. You haven't, thus far.
     
    Patricio Da Silva, Jul 13, 2020
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