Are mail-in ballots actually safe from being tampered with?

Wow. I don't smoke so I don't know how much cigarettes cost, but I'd think my signature would be worth more than $1. I mean if I was willing to break the law but I'm keen on my freedom so that's unlikely.

 

The mail is handled by multiple people. Most mail boxes are easily accessed. We frequently get other people's mail and I would assume that other people get our mail.

Does that answer you question?

 

Then why is there concern about a few voters who might not be able to vote because of voter ID requirements?

 

These were homeless street people. Values shift significantly with circumstances. Lord know they have plenty of steet people to work with our west.

 

Isn't falsifying that paperwork illegal? Even with homelessness and a street lifestyle (I admit that I don't know the difference), why would anybody risk their freedom for $1? I guess the authorities would have to find them first, but still. $1 cannot be worth much on the street, can it?

 

Voter ID laws are a solution to a non-existent problem. We didn't have them for over 200 years, and now, that demographics are starting to favor democrats, Republicans 'suddenly' want voter ID laws. Here are some republican operatives admitting, with astonishing honesty, the real reason republicans want voter ID laws. (all clips just few minutes long)



Voter ID laws are applied to entire states, Thirty-six states have identification requirements at the polls, including seven states with strict photo ID laws . It's not a 'few', as voter ID requirements have had the practical effect of disenfranchising hundreds of thousands of voters. That's a conservative estimate given that 11% of the electorate do not have an ID sufficient to satisfy state ID requirements, that's 21,000,000 people.

https://www.aclu.org/other/oppose-voter-id-legislation-fact-sheet

Vote fraud is incidental and not on any grand scale ( like vote ID is ).
https://www.brennancenter.org/issue...an-can-vote/vote-suppression/myth-voter-fraud

The President's big lie of illegals voting



False comparison, in other words

How Republicans capitalized on SCOTUS gutting the voter Rights Act


If you bring up the Heritage Foundation's take on this, I have rebuttals waiting.

 

But if a few people lose their votes do to mail in ballots is no problem, why is it no problem if a few people lose their votes do to voter ID?

 

In this state you fill out a paper ballot feed it into a machine that tabulates the votes. And saves the hard copy. You have to present a picture ID to vote.

 

the us postal service
Claims 98% accuracy. That means out of 100 million votes mailed 2 million will be lost. Purely accidentally.

 

98% accuracy is not that great. We get someone else's mail once a week or so.

 

I guess obama will tell illegal aliens just to mail in their votes this time.

 

Given there are billions of pieces of snail mail every year, 2% is a huge number.

 

Nothing to see here....

https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/indus.php?ind=l1500

 

Solution is to open early voting up real early lets say September 1st, go 7 days a week, 12 hours a day and be done with it. That is 63 days at 12 hours a day for a total of 756 hours that one can go to vote IN person.

 

should we ban all absentee ballots, all or none, not just ban them in swing states where republicans fear more dems will vote

 

There is literally nothing to stop a democrat supporting mail carrier from stealing ballots from known republican areas and burning them in a barrel in their backyard, or vice versa for that matter.

 

agree, this would help

 

NOTHING wrong with Absentee Voting - see thread Absentee Voting - HOW DO for rules and requirements

 

If someone couldn't drag their arse to a polling location over the course of having 756 hours to vote, I wouldn't say that they were disenfranchised.

 

yep, I am all for a ban on all absentee ballots or none, not picking and choosing

 

agree, never said there was, but if we ban it, ban it in all states or allow it in all states

 

Goto the site referenced in the thread. Absentee voting IS allowed by every State.

 

1. Mail in votes is a solution to existent problems, COVID 19 and difficulty of access (some states have been using it for ease of access).
2, Voter ID is a solution to a non-existent problem, 'voter fraud' and increases difficulty of access

#1 loses votes due to A) human error/lost in mail and B) overly restrictive requirements, for example, rejecting imperfect matches such as, rejecting Mike Joe Jones SSN 123-4567 on ballot, not perfectly matching Michael Joe Jones SSN 123-4567 on file (no problem with reasonable restrictions, such as non matching SSNs, etc. "A" is to a large extent unavoidable but can be improved with clear instructions ( maybe), and better mail handling. "B" can be improved upon

#2 loses votes because of difficulty of access, which is entirely avoidable since #2 is not necessary given the history of voting.

If both lose votes, then the criterion rests on whether or not the process is necessary, not whether or not they lose votes ( since both do ).

 

I'm all for mail in voting, and giving people a choice, which is the case where I live. That should be for everyone, not just military and people who are out of state due temporarily to a profession

 

Then it's not an issue