Are mail-in ballots actually safe from being tampered with?

And yet Thomas Cooper, from Dry Fork, West VA recently got caught, as a Postal Service employee in a very small town, which is why he was caught altering mail-in ballots. And no one was looking for mailman fraud, so how often does this happen in large cities where the locals don't know Mildred is a Democrat, not a Republican?.

 

The most opportune time to tamper with a mail-in ballot is before it goes into a USPS mail slot in the blue box or the slot inside the post office.

Especially if the look alike ballots (with differences difficult to detect or undetectable) were printed in a foreign country.

 

I can envision mail bags full of ballots just magically appearing in the days after.

 

Mail-in ballots are as safe from tampering as are the brake lines on your truck. In other words, not very safe at all, from tampering. But like your brake lines, nobody is going to tamper with them.

 

Has anybody seen these foreign counterfeit ballots?

 

afaik nobody has seen any ballot printed anywhere at this point, unless they're going to leave the vice-presidential picks off this time.

 

Ask yourself why did it only become an issue under the CHEAT in CHIEF Dirty Donald, who somehow seems to think there is a difference between an Absentee Ballot and a Mail in Ballot????Both go through exactly the same U.S.Mail, in the exact same envelope in envelope system with the same safeguards.

 

So, it's just a dream, not an actual thing. Got it.

 

So there's no problem.

 

Shortly after Dirty Donald took office in 2017, he appointed Kris Kobach of Kansas to head up a committee to investigate voting irregularities and cheating. The committee after several months, and God only knows how much taxpayer money expended, gave up and disbanded finding absolutely nothing of any significance to warrant their committee existence.

 

Forget that effort. Most states would not participate and the chances of yielding anything was zilch.

 

It tells me that Thomas Cooper took a risk and and got caught; no doubt he faced federal criminal charges and it's reasonable to assume he is no longer employed by the postal service. We must assume that this type of criminal activity doesn't occur in every postal jurisdiction based on the actions of one person. It would be the same with poll workers tampering with voting machines; could it happen? Of course so do we stop using voting machines to tally the votes or, if caught, prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law?

 

Nothing like throwing the media's own headlines against them.

 

Exactly. Then ask yourself, after 38 million people voted by mail in 2016, why did Trump win? If the Democrats were cheating, how could they possibly lose by 100,000 votes spread out over three states? Makes no sense. You know what makes sense? Trump cheated using mail votes. He won.

 

How do you catch them for doing this? The only reason they caught this guy was because the towns folk knew the party affiliation for some of the people, whose ballots he tampered with.

Also occurring this year, a postal worker was accused of tossing election fliers into the trash. Makes a me wonder if the person was so bold, because what the hell, she/he tosses ballots during the election year?

Postal worker caught on camera dumping Fort Bend County Sheriff Troy Nehls’ campaign fliers

Stuff like this does make we wonder how wide spread it is, since who monitors postal workers.

 

To be fair, weren't those mostly all absentee ballots, that voters requested? That is different than using an inaccurate and sloppy state voter rolls, to just mail ballots to every damn address on the list

 

I fail to see how that would effect someone's fraudulent intent, and as many states allow no-excuse mail voting, I'd say no, most were not absentee ballots. Thing is, they're the same thing. How they're delivered is irrelevant. It's how they're returned that counts.

 

Ask yourself this; if you were a postal employee, would you toss fliers or risk federal prison over a couple hundred fraudulent votes? Neither would I. It's not widespread.

 

If you are concerned you should take those concerns to your local Democratic party headquarters. If there's reason to believe some party will act illegally to impact the elections they can file suit and have that person removed and replaced.
Or, you could take it to the BoE yourself

What you're suggesting is a serious felony and I'm pretty sure anyone partisan enough to risk prison is easy enough to identify.

Beyond that ballots can be lost, damaged, or one of any number of calamities you can imagine. Just as faulty machines, lost counts, and other issues can impact in person voting. But, absent actual fraud, the numbers are too small and the probabilities suggest equal impacts, any impact on vote totals would be miniscule.

 

There is a difference, which is why so many people are opposed to canceling voting places, and just mailing ballots to everyone on the voter rolls. The voter rolls in many states are not accurate, up to a decade old, the people may have since become a felon, may have moved to another part of town, another city or state, or have died, gotten married, changed their name, and moved. Hell, the address in the voter roll may not even exist anymore, or been a fake address to begin with.

With an absentee ballot, you are requesting it to be mailed at a specific address, and you are expecting it.

If they just use these inaccurate voter rolls, many people will not get a ballot, or multiple ballots with their name might end up being mailed to more than one address. Then there is the load on the postal service will impose from all of these ballots will create.

Not to mention the distant possibility of fake and fraudulent ballots being mailed to either try to elect a candidate, or cause confusion in an already untested election ballot process.

 

Apparently it's going on,and these are just the few we have caught. If you see one cockroach running across the floor of a new building you purchased, do you just assume there is only one? Like I said, no one is monitoring the postal delivery employees, and we only caught these two by pure luck.

 

I think that the fact that these people are getting caught is testimony that the system works; most post offices have inspectors/video security systems installed. I would have to think that not every postal worker tampers with the mail; when you think about it, how many workers are willing to risk their careers and face possible jail time over tampering with the mail. Remember people who are convicted felons have a tough time finding viable employment, so it stands to reason that the vast majority of them would not want to risk losing their jobs/jail time over tampering with the ballot mail. I'm sure there are a few who might take the risk but I'm sure their numbers are low.

 

Never under any circumstances ever allow an honest election with valid ID which is easy to get in place of a driver's license. Nope, don't do it. Leave doubt in the minds of conspiracy freaks instead of empirical proof a vote went one way or the other by authorized voters. Excuse any means to avoid positive ID.

 

Easy. Votes can just disappear. All those envelopes can end up in a dumpster or burned. Gone. And if they’re found it’s too late.

 

You have to wonder why Dems fight so hard against knowing exactly who is voting. Same way they don’t want our census to know exactly who people are. What possible motivation could they have??