Are mail-in ballots actually safe from being tampered with?

I have lived in the same place for 10 years. I have received mail wrongly only once that I can recall. Yours is solvable by local moving the post office carrier to a job within the post office where he can't screw up the mail. Obviously, my carrier is more competent than yours, and that's where the problem lies.

 

Sounds like the kind of scam a Repub would try to pull off.

North Carolina GOP Operative Faces New Felony Charges That Allege Ballot Fraud
https://www.npr.org/2019/07/30/7468...s-new-felony-charges-that-allege-ballot-fraud

Federalist Society Co-Founder Calls Trump Bid To Change Election Day ‘Fascistic,’ Impeachable
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/...-to-change-election-day-fascistic-impeachable

"The co-founder of the conservative legal organization the Federalist Society said Thursday that Trump’s bid to move Election Day was “fascistic” and worthy of impeachment.

Steven Calabresi wrote in a New York Times op-ed that he’d voted for Trump, protested the Mueller investigation and opposed the President’s impeachment over the Ukraine pressure campaign.

But, Calabresi wrote, “I am frankly appalled by the president’s recent tweet seeking to postpone the November election.”

“Until recently, I had taken as political hyperbole the Democrats’ assertion that President Trump is a fascist,” he said. “But this latest tweet is fascistic and is itself grounds for the president’s immediate impeachment again by the House of Representatives and his removal from office by the Senate.”

 

Mail in ballots will be a much bigger problem than voter ID. It has all sorts of potential problems.

You can hardly live in this country without an ID card. Voter ID is a solution to a potential problem. We really don't know whether there is a voter fraud due to illegal voters because there is no way to check.

I have had at least three different mail carriers in the twenty three hears we have lived here. There have been misdelivered mail from all of them. It has probably got more to do with rural delivered mail out of a vehicle which is the problem.

 

Those few are always cute stories too, "people like Ann Johnson. 93 year old daughter of a sharecropper, born to a midwife, has never needed an ID because everyone in town knows her"

 

This is literally the current setup in every state.

 

Who could likely easily get a photo ID. I am sure there are people who could help her.

It gets tiresome.

 

Are mail-in ballots safe from being tampered with?

The following people seem to think so based on their voting by mail in the past...
Trump
Pence
Ivanka and Jared
Kayleigh McEnany
Bill Barr
Betsy DeVos
Larry Kudlow
Wilbur Ross
Ronna McDaniel
Brad Parscale

 

I voted absentee for twenty years while in the Air Force.. Where there is no choice, that is how you vote. It is better than nothing. That does not mean it is safe.

The military was very narrow minded about this subject. They refused to shut down for a few days and fly us all home to vote in person.

 

They clearly believe it's safe enough.

 

Not always "easy" but honestly, with the outliers like that, I have no problem with exceptions being made locally to give out an ID without major hoop jumping when its "common sense".

 

False argument and you know it, the problem isnt people filling out the paperwork so they can vote absentee and then doing so, its mailing them out without the proper paperwork.

 

Examples?

 

My wife was out of town for the last primary. I called the county recorder and had a absentee ballot mailed to her. I could have been anybody and could have had that ballot mailed to any address I wanted.

 

That's not an example.

 

Thanks for reply...no office for her. The township has a town hall which is just 20x30 foot building with one large room and a small kitchen.
It gets rented out for family gatherings and is used for meetings and in person voting. There is a garage that houses the snowplow.
The only businesses are a bar, a bar/restaurant, a yarn shop and a gun shop. There is another small town maybe 7 miles away,
with only a town hall, a butcher shop and a junk yard.

 

These sound like perfect little towns that have everything you need.

 

First prove there's a problem, then lets talk about solutions.

 

My vote would not be for sale at any price, you may feel the same. But many a person has been killed for less. Desperation changes the value of anything you don't have but feel you need. If you were desperate, gave no real vale to yourself or your role as a citizen and someone paid you $1 and a pack of cigarettes to sign you name- it would be more like an autograph or a scribble. No big deal to the bum- but another vote that was "bought" and controlled. It's one of the risks that is presented with an open mail ballot issue. Hell I still get offers in the mail for my father- who died in 1986 and never lived at my address. 34 years later some people still think he's a potential customer and would be happy to hear from him. Sadly- We can't trust the kind of people trying to swing elections to be any more diligent.

The people here have been arrested; the points are from their won testimony, not assumptions.

 

The question is, how easy are they to forge?

How easy would it be for any nation or leftist group who is an enemy of the USA, to print off thousands of counterfeit ballots and mail them all across the US? We already saw that just in New Jersey alone, 10% of the mail in ballots were lost or rejected. Now add a flood of counterfeit ballots which are difficult to detect, and you have an election disaster on our hands. Okay, it's redundant, since the disaster in New Jersey was a gigantic election calamity all on its own.

One in 10 Ballots Rejected in Last Month’s Vote-by-Mail Elections

 

You have only been here less than a month, so I'll give you some advice. If you are going to challenge someone on a significant point like that, it's sort of required that you do some research first.

 

We are arguing with the same people about mail in ballot problems, who just assume as fact, that black people don't have a photo ID, cannot find the DMV, and don't know how to use the internet.

 

"Most commonly, officials did not count ballots because the signature on the ballot did not match the one on file, the ballot arrived too late or the required certificate was not enclosed."

If ballots were rejected because signatures didn't match then I would say it's not easy to forge and therefore counterfeit ballots would not be difficult to detect.
Seems many of the reasons for ballot rejection is based on the incompetence of the voter.

 

The fraud, with respect to mail in ballots, has historically happened on the organizational side - not the voter side.

 

Agreed, people mess up a lot, and mail in ballots are the greatest amplifier of that. And this is just what we see with absentee ballots, where the person is requesting a mail-in ballot. It will be much worse when the state is just using their inaccurate voter rolls to mail a ballot to everyone, alive, dead, moved to another state, etc...

Ballots can be received late and may not be the voter's fault. Sometimes the post office messes up and don't stamp the ballot, so there is no "mail-in date" or their mailing service is slow in delivering it.

 

That's probably because people request an absentee ballot. But once every person on these inaccurate voter rolls is sent ballots, with tens of millions of ballots, the chance for voter side fraud increases dramatically. If the fraudulent ballots are only trying to flood the state with millions of bogus ballots to sift thru, it will dramatically slow everything down and cause even more mistakes.