Portland shooting leaves 1 dead as pro-Trump group clashes with BLM

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  1. dairyair

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    I agree, this is tRUMPs America. And this is what he wants.

    That's why he points fingers. Division is his America. It's also what his supporters want. It's all BLM and Antifa all the time.
     
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    Nope. The country is taking on the character of the leadership. Division and finger pointing. Don't take responsibility.
    trumps America. MAGA. He achieved his goal.
     
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    Not necessarily.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-us-canada-52973398

    https://www.wsls.com/news/virginia/...supremacists-disguised-as-black-lives-matter/

    https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/qj4ky5/white-supremacist-street-gangs-are-going-to-blm-protests

    There's more ... google 'white nationalists at blm protests'. You can't blame all of the violence, burning, smashing and looting on the left.
     
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    Why does your link only show up when I click Reply? That was weird.

    Are they certain this was the shooter? Which one is he in the video -- white tee shirt or black hoodie on a skateboard?

    Disgusting and abhorrent, regardless of the shooter's ideology.
     
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    Because there was a burning effigy of Joe Biden and Kamala Harris. Oh, wait no that's Trump! I'll take responsibility for the bongaloo boys if someone, anyone takes responsibility for antifa because that's how we start to fix this.
     
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    Incorrect, the country is dealing with years of democrats likening everyone to nazi's, creating false narratives demonizing police, years of supporting terrorist organizations like blm and antifa.

    This is completely democrat created.

    They wanted to destroy the country to hurt Trump.
     
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    If they become pres and vp, there will be effigy of them burning. That is a given.

    The situations in the country today are a result of trumps character and leadership skills.
     
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    Nope. 3.5 yrs of trump leadership capabilities.
    We didn't have this many riots since the civil rights movements. We've not had a pandemic like this for 102 yrs.
    Welcome to trumps America.
     
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    The situation today is a result of democrat leadership supporting violence against Trump supporters by claiming we should "punch Nazis" and then likening everyone to nazi's and supporting terrorist organizations like blm and antifa.
     
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    Nope, its years of Dems creating false narratives in order to divide people, attack those who disagree, inflame racial tensions, and support terrorist organizations like blm and antifa.

    Welcome to the American dems created.
     
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    My whole point is that we can't blame Trump for everything. And we can't blame the Left for everything either. Hence I said I'll take responsibility for the bongaloo boys. I never joined them or knew of anyone who did, but I'll still take responsibility and hopefully others follow suit. These are fringes on both sides of the political spectrum. Let's push them back there, together.
     
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    The country has taken the character of those in the leadership position. As does all organizations. Division is trumps America. That's what we have. Plenty of it.
     
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    I am not blaming him for everything.

    Just the major issues in the country today. And the lack of a response to fix them or to work towards a solution. Division is not working together.
     
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    Incorrect, the country is a result of democrats poor leadership skills, blaming everyone for everything without taking an ounce of it for themselves. Calling everyone Nazi's, and inflaming racial tensions across the board with false narratives, as well as supporting terrorist organizations like blm and antifa.

    This is a failure of the democrats.
     
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    Thank god we haven't seen any violence from the left during the last few months. None.
     
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    Its not Trump supporters burning down businesses, attacking people for even the slightest disagreement. Thats blm and antifa, all supported by democrats.

    This is dems America.
     
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    Your judgment on who is dangerous is very biased. See #93. Even if it doesn't apply to this case, ask yourself: why was the victim there? He doesn't seem to have been an Oregon resident. Shameful that he was killed, but you're jumping to conclusions here. Also, antifa (small a) is not an organized group, and no one is allowing them to commit violent acts.

    Right wing rhetoric is not factual.
     
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    tRUMP promoted violence all the way back in 2016 campaign rallies.

    Trump: ‘Knock the Crap Out’ of Protesters, I'll Pay Legal Fees
    https://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2016/02/01/trump-i-ll-pay-for-protester-beatings

    WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump appeared to advocate rougher treatment of people in police custody during a speech in New York.

    Trump spoke dismissively of arresting officers who protect suspects’ heads while putting them in police cars in a speech in front of law enforcement on Long Island.

    He said: “You can take the hand off,” drawing cheers from his audience.
    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politi...worry-people-custody-hitting-heads-squad-cars

    He wanted violence. He got violence.
    This is trumps America. MAGA.
     
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    Neither the victim or shooter (or suspects) have been officially identified. I feel confident that the victim is Jay Bishop because it is widely accepted by known individuals on the alt right groups, there is a gofundme put up for funeral costs that describe what happened, and there are clear pictures of the victim showing what he was wearing that match up with images him from earlier in the day. Like Kyle in Kenosha, a reporter interviewed his friend while the 2 were gearing up.

    The shooting suspect is being talked about on 4chan. While it may be accurate, I don't see enough to jump to those assumptions like other posters here.
     
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    I remember when the left constantly, and I mean constantly, said 'if it saves just one life' along with telling everyone to be tolerant. They no longer say either of those things. And I can pretty much predict the left is going to blame this on Trump, racism, white supremacists, or anyone and anything that they hope will get us to not blame them for their violence and hypocrisy.
     
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    Say what? I'll give you one guess who came out and supported Biden.
     
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    A solution? Well focusing just on the riots, a solution emmates from Germany. Have a dividing line and each side can only be on that line.
     
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    Democrats have been promoting violence against anyone who disagrees with them since atleast 2015. Supporting violent terrorists like blm, and antifa. Calling everyone fascist and nazi's, while spreading propaganda to inflame racial tensions.

    This is the result of dem actions, this is dems America.
     
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    Just slow the speed to 25% or 25%.
     

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