CDC admits to vast over count of deaths

The article has two separate '94%' stats. One is 94% had "another cause of death", and the other is 94% had an "underlying health condition." I wonder if they really are actually two separate stats, or if the article just isn't making it clear on what "94%" relates to.

 

Really? See above post.

 

Either way, only 6% of the people who died with Cvirus were otherwise healthy. To put another way, Cvirus is 94% less lethal to healthy people than it has been reported.

Open the economy now.

 

What?
11k deaths isn't enough to keep the economy closed down?

 

Are you saying that that the 94% would have died anyway even if the coronavirus didn't exist?

 

Not to be a party pooper, but haven't we always known that those with comorbidity, obesity, and the elderly were most susceptible? Wise or unwise, aren't they who we have been protecting?

 

I was quite clear in what Im saying.

Cvirus is 94% less lethal to healthy people than it has been reported.

Open the economy now.

People with potentially complicating conditions can isolate themselves without everyone else being forced to participate.

 

Well how was it reported before?

 

You mean after Dems give up using covid as a political football?

Over 90% of covid deaths were accompiened by serious comorbidities and the average age of death was over 65.

 

94%.

As the non-partisan and non-hysterical have been saying for MONTHS, the Democrat COVID Hoax is VASTLY more dangerous than COVID itself.

Shame on the entire Democrat party!

 

Thread win.

 

fake news, Trump just made them say what he wants to hear, there is actually an under count as not everyone with blood clots that died had been tested

 

so Trump issued a national emergency and released his shutdown and reopen guidelines, and it was all a hoax?

Shame on the entire Republican party!

 

I think those exposed to COVID has been vastly undercounted and those who died from COVID has been vastly over-counted.

There is a difference between dying with COVID and dying of COVID!

 

Once again very interesting ... not the news in the link because it is not new for those who seriously and openly deal with the topic ... but the reaction of all the people who see now their general trivialization of Covid-19 ridiculously confirmed.

Let's be open ... what defines death caused by COVID-19 again?
The person got infected with COVID-19, got sick and then died ... right? Not correct!

Unfortunately it is not that easy ... because if someone had a different pre-existing illness or gets another infection after the infection with COVID19, then it becomes difficult to define what someone died in terms of "question of the cause" ... isn't it?
And it's also going to be difficult to say whether someone like that wouldn't have died if they hadn't been infected with COVID-19 ... isn't it?

In short: The question of whether COVID-19 was now the "coffin nail" for people who demonstrably or probably also had other diseases cannot be determined. It can only be determined whether such a death person was infected with COVID-19 or not! Only ... that is the basic statement always and since ever for all diseases and not only or in special for COVID-19!

So I don't know what is new and unknown or a sensation here ... because THAT has been known for a very long time and applies in general!

 

Until literally everyone is tested and until all deaths have been confirmed by positive covid testing and deaths from fatal injuries and things that are clearly not covid related are ruled out the numbers will remain meaningless.

I am willing to wager heavily that only a fraction of those who would test positive have been, as most people exposed to COVID show no or only mild symptoms.

I was undoubtedly exposed to covid here in Amsterdam as I had a hacking cough all through March and beyond, but I never sought medical attention.

I suspect that is true of most people.

 

40% US adults are obese. Nearly 1/3 have high blood pressure. The ones without any of those "co-morbidities" are more rare than you think.

But, maybe Trump can start a new slogan. He likes people that are healthy, not sick, just like he likes soldiers who do not become POWs.

 

It was ridiculous and obvious as it was going on during these last 6 months. Many whistleblowers pointed it out, and had their characters assassinated by gatekeepers of the official narrative, including many posters here at Political Forum. Everybody had been terrorized, and so it was easy to understand.

The books were cooked from the very beginning, as was planned. You defend that practice at your own peril.

 

Thank you for proof positive of the absurdity of your position.

 

So, in the future will we only count deaths from the flu if the person was in perfect health before catching the flu?
We've never done that in the past.

 

Certain.

 

New York Nursing homes were full of Seniors living on the brink of death. Cuomo introduced China Virus infected seniors into the general population racking up record numbers early to promote fear for your side. I've never bought into it.

 

Protecting? You've been drinking the Kool Aid it sounds like.

But your first sentence is true and relevant.

It seems you've missed the point however, the point being that death rates FROM covid were grossly inaccurate from the start. And the bigger point is that MANY in the profession called this out, but they were rejected by mainstream media and censored by FB and YouTube. Recall the Frontline Doctors.

Those whistleblowers had their characters assassinated by MSM, here, there and everywhere.

They were right--the books were cooked.

 

I hate to be the bearer of obvious news but we are all going to die of something (spoiler alert) so why don’t we worry about things likely to kill us.

Be glad you live in the west and are not among the 11 million who have already died of starvation or other communicable diseases.

We have the luxury of narcissism over a minor event, they don’t.

No wonder they see us as spoiled divas.

I do too!

 

The fact is that we know people are suffering all over the world from things more easily fixed with the trillions spent in the vain attempt to postpone this virus.

But these are brown or Asian people that don’t have an interest in fashion or beauty products like us westerners. (And it shows?)

They can die regularly of predictable diseases or starvation in much larger numbers but this is us.

Forget them, we have an eight in ten thousand chance of dying of this virus if the numbers are not inflated which they almost certainly are.

Come on people, get a grip!