CDC admits to vast over count of deaths

If they are conspiracy theorists, they are conspiracy theorists, no matter what their other virtues may be. If they are talking about a "Plandemic" then they are conspiracy theorists.

 

How so? Just because a person has another disease state doesn't mean COVID can't cause their death. It's preposterous to only include healthy people in COVID death counts considering most elderly have some type of underlying condition.

 

You don't need a college degree to understand any of this. No one claimed that. That's your invention. Same way you're making up the "Marxist" thing -- psst, not many Marxists in business departments, hun, and I'm sure I've spilled more ink criticizing Marxism and promoting capitalism than you ever will. It's strange that people who can't address the facts always resort to fake insults.

 

Yeah, the CDC said the same thing. We can sum this entire thread up rather easily:

OP: The CDC says X!
CDC: Uhh . . . that's not true and here's why.
**Nothing more except attempts to distract and failures to respond to what the CDC actually said**

And I'm sure it will continue.

 

We are all conspiracy theorists Yardmeat.

Most, like you, prefer official conspiracy theories like the claim that somebody drinking bat soup in Wuhan caused this mess.

Others have trouble with many official conspiracy theories and use suppressed facts and evidence to speculate about other theories.

 

Distract, distract, distract. Never address the facts. I get it now, don't worry.

 

No, YOU stay home. If you have a disease that will kill me you have NO right to go out and keep on spreading it. You and I can keep away from each other as much as we like, (and believe me, in your case that will be much, MUCH more than my heart's desire), but you can still give the disease to others and them to others still, eventually the tendrils will spread far, FAR beyond what you can even comprehend, let alone control.

Talk to Typhoid Mary if you disagree.

 

Wait, what happened to 6ft social distancing and masks? Did you just admit they don't work? Sounds like you should stay home.

 

Better yet stay indoors yourself if you are that concerned about it. Let the people 50 and younger who aren't likely to be much more than mildly inconvenienced by this bug go back to work. Death rate there is less than the death rate from the flu. The sooner the get it and get over the sooner us old farts can quit playing hermit. By the way the undercount meme is a fiction. People have been dying of blood clots in the lungs for centuries. There is however a major under of deaths from almost every other respiratory illness.

 

Hey, why don't you go eat some **** and die. Mind, I don't mean you should but at least you wouldn't be spreading it to me.

I realize you think that the very survival of the human race depends on Trump staying in office forever but there are some few of us who disagree, in fact we don't want to die for that at all.

Basically, what you're saying about people who may get Covid and then die from "something else" is "****
em they're old. (or young, have diabetes, hypertension, hell just about ANYTHING but robust good health). And I wanna go bowling"

 

Read the CDC text again.
Focus on "cause" and especially "causes".

 

You have debunked nothing. Read again. Whenever you see "cause" and "causes" think carefully.

The data regarding cause of death has been debunked - repeatedly.
This pandemic has been a very lucrative generator of Fake Science loot.

"Colorado health officials on Friday changed how they count the number of people lost to the coronavirus outbreak in the state.

As a result, the state's stated COVID-19 death toll dropped by nearly 300 people who had contracted the virus but died of other causes that may or may not have been related to infection."
COLORADOAN, Did Colorado's coronavirus death toll really just drop by nearly 300? Here's what changed., By Eric Larsen, Editor, Fort Collins Coloradoan, May 16, 2020.
https://www.coloradoan.com/story/ne...-coronavirus-deaths-state-counted/5198485002/

While you are looking up "cause" flip a few pages to "conflict of interest" for additional clarification.

 

No I think the very survival of the human race depends on people not being gutless cowards in the face of whatever inconvenience comes there way.

 

One hour ago....

European Center For Disease Control refutes Covid19 death toll, says at least 75% died of other causes.

Spain and Italy’s CDC Directors said they will re-adjust their rates.

https://www.ecdc.europa/301582

 

COVID can exacerbate existing disease conditions. I don't think the argument has ever been that COVID is the single factor causing these deaths.

 

The death stats are seldom broken down, and the data has been fudged.

 

The death stats are broken down though. Look at the link you provided again in Table 3. It categorizes each COVID death with the underlying conditions.

 

I think it’s clear both sides of the political debate on C19 are trying to spin and influence death counts. Both sides sicken me at this point. Look what partisanship has turned us into as a society

That said, the global research article lost my attention at this;

Ummm, well, yes and no. And if you don’t understand the “no” part it’s probably not a good idea to use the talking point.

Anyway, the BIG takeaway from the CDC release is if you are skeert of C19 you better get your *ss off the couch and get some healthy food and some exercise. Your overall health and your immune system health depend on it. You can eliminate a lot of those comorbities.

The efficacy of vaccines in individuals is directly affected by general health and exercise regimen.

 

Careful. I doubt logic and evidence will get you very far here. They are doing everything they can to rewrite Table 3. They even throw a fit when you quote the people who produced it.

 

Trump would have to lead by example and his fat butt ain't doing that

 

??
We ALWAYS work together to reduce risk.

Surely the ability of humans to work together to reduce risks is what has led to the human race dominating the entire world.

America would not be what it is today without that attitude of working together. Is there any more central feature that that when considering civilization?

 

Fake news.......

Sorry

 

What you describe is called "PATRIOTISM" as in the American creed of nobody left behind and that little motto on our currency "E Pluribus Unum" " which translates to "Out of Many, One". Republicans do not relate to actual patriotism as they hump the flag and worship at the clay feet of a filthy demagogue wearing a cheesy red cap and root for the destruction of democracy, a system of governance that scares and confuses them. Do you ever notice how those on the right never even discuss the values of preserving or protecting a democracy? That's no coincidence.

 

COVID Hoax go BOOM!

WHO could have foreseen that this latest and most destructive Democrat hoax would blow up like all their preceding hoaxes?

 

An agonizing death is not an "inconvenience" and I might take offense at being called a coward, but then realize the caller is the very epitome of an Internet Tough Guy, brave as a lion when going on about how he's not afraid of some disease he's not yet shown any symptoms of while safe behind his computer keyboard.