Portland shooting leaves 1 dead as pro-Trump group clashes with BLM

Joe Biden's new campaign slogan... "Forget all that stuff I actually did that made your lives suck.... I promise I'll work harder now to make it worse."...

 

When "leaders" at the very top tell us that in order to gain power and control, they plan to continue using the Fifth Column of fear and intimation against citizens, we should believe them.

"Everyone Beware, because they're not going to stop before election day, and they're not going to stop after election day." -Kamala Harris, Democratic candidate for VP

 

Ehm ... aside fact that IS has a fixed oraganizational structure with leaders and so on ... what ANTIFa has not ... well ... your comparison is not correct!

 

Ehm ...

I don't think that one of these idiots in their costumes will vote these days for democrats, but for Republicans and Trump! Or do you really believe that one of them voted for Obama once, eh?

So always funny to read this hint from righties that KKK was once beloved by Democrats. The core point here is "ONCE IN THE PAST" .., because this has for 180° turned!

 

So what good is she if she is still going to allow cities to burn after she’s elected?

 

They have a charter, a leadership hierarchy and numerous cells throughout the United States. And probably better funded than IS atm.

 

That is the common righty assertion without any evidence for it ... on the contrary, because that this is all not not the case has been proven and also proves the view and evaluation of all other countries except the USA under a Donald Trump regarding ANTIFA:

Willing to use violence / being violent? Yes
Left-wing extremist? Yes
Dangerous for public order? Yes
Terrorists? No

To call ANTIFA a terrorist is ridiculous. Then it is just as permissible to call the KKK, the whole "White Power" movements and other racists and Nazi movements terrorists as well several righty extremist group... and you won't agree with that, eh?

 

Lolwut?

I find it hard to imagine that anyone could glean that sort of complete mischaracterization from reading my statement.

I DON'T "root for" any armed militia.
(Once again, you have completely mischaracterized my position).

You are 100% Wrong, and your references to the KKK are completely (and utterly) misplaced.

You have completely mischaracterized the actual events in Oregon.

Nobody was "brutally hunted down and killed", the victim deliberately placed himself in that situation, and then sprayed bear mace at the protestors:

Justin Dunlap, who witnessed the shooting and captured some of it on his Facebook live stream, said he "didn't hear much lead up to it."
"I heard like three seconds of yelling and saw a guy spray bear mace," Dunlap told CNN. "The victim sprayed mace and launched it right into the other guy.

Obviously, I am not defending the killer. And, I expect the Perp to face the full weight of justice.
And, just as obviously, I don't think that the victim deserved to be shot.
But the idea that the victim was some sort of "innocent bystander" is supremely misguided.

And your entire "rebuttal" seems to revolve around "whataboutism" based on events from the middle of the last century.

Carry on.

 

So the victim tried and unfortunately failed to defend himself from the killer.
Doesn't change that he should be charged with capital murder one, add a hate crime ontop of it, if that law has ANY meaning at all, Democrats told us it's to protect minorities or anyone from being targeted as a group.

Now's the time to actually apply it, before crazies on both sides decide that political assassination is acceptable.

This needs to be nipped in the bud NOW

 

Well, it's nice that you can quote a witness that doesn't actually represent the event. How disingenuous of you to have even tried. Good thing there is video. It shows a group of folks who said "hey, there's one" and took off after the guy, and shot him. Why try so hard to deny the facts? Why are you defending these folks. They did, in fact, actively hunt down and execute the guy because he was a) white and b) possibly part of a political group they didn't tolerate. Not to mention that after the killing, members of the same group gathered to celebrate the killing. And here you are, defending those actions, making excuses for those actions, and frankly, having been tagged for doing it, here you are now equivocating the posts that you actually wrote yourself. Are you not embarrassed by your own crassness here?

The truly hilarious thing is that you used EXACTLY the same language racist white supremacists did in the south half a century ago. You worried about how "those agitators" would lead to violence, which you excused btw, and have yet to actually condemn those who killed as a pack.

There is no "whataboutism" here. Your own words are the example we're discussing. They reflect both the language and the tone of white supremacists of the past. And like them, they also excused violence directed against the agitators, just you you have, and continue to do with your latest post.

 

I would 100% agree with calling them terrorist if they fall under the definition of creating terror.

terrorism
[ ter-uh-riz-uhm ]

SEE SYNONYMS FOR terrorism ON THESAURUS.COM
noun
the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, especially for political purposes.
the state of fear and submission produced by terrorism or terrorization.
a terroristic method of governing or of resisting a government.

If you do not think Anitifa falls into this classification, then you absolutely blind to the reality of today's events.

 

If the Perp is charged, I expect him to face the full weight of justice.

Obviously, this killing deserves to be prosecuted to the law's fullest extent.

 

Yes, this.

 

Constantly misrepresenting (and mischaracterizing) my statements isn't going to "win" you an argument.

Attributing positions to me (that I never advocated) proves nothing.

1) I Never "defended", "made excuses", or "equivocated". Period.

2) And just because you are falsely attributing those things to me, doesn't make them so.

Feel free to take the last word

Obviously, it is futile for me to engage you further.

it isn't a prudent use of my time to be drawn into a back and forth with someone who mischaracterizes my positions.

 

LOL... Thanks or the laugh. I'm sure it won't stop you in the future. It never does. What I think is so dangerous though, is that so much of this is directly derivative of what the bobbly heads on lefty MSM say. How many times in the last couple days have the lefty bobble heads both excused and celebrated the violence.

 

Oh no! Protests!

 

I gave up on that guy a long while ago.

 

Why yes...the left calls them "protests".

 

Conservative black man starts a GoFundMe Page to raise money for victims of sexual assault and abuse:





If you'd like to donate to survivors of sexual assault, go here...

Oh. Oops! Looks like GoFundMe didn't like that fundraiser.

Nope. No double standard.

 

I think you're giving "the Left" a LOT more credit than they deserve. I think this kind of thinking is WAY more mainstream than anyone is willing to admit, or that the left wants anyone to think. No, your average soccer-mom who votes democrat is not out on a nightly basis burning s**t down, but many of them are secretly rooting for those who are. I mean think about it... Democrats are people whose first campaign promise EVERY election cycle is that they're going to raise taxes, and not just on the mega-rich, but across the board.

If item ONE on your list is to raise my already criminally too high taxes, I'm not interested in anything else you have to say. That's a no from me, dog.

 

What percentage of the rioters, and the riot supporters/enablers, do you think are taxpayers?

Millenials living at home with Mom ----unemployed and complaining about how they can't find a job to pay them what they think they're worth---- they don't care how much taxpayers get screwed to redistribute wealth to them. And I doubt many BLM <COMMENT EDITED> are big taxpayers either. Both groups are probably cheering the idea of raising taxes, because it will just "screw the man" even more, with little or no impact on themselves.

 

GoFundMe(IfYoureLiberal) is a place for stupid people to donate now. Any real causes worth donating to get banned.

 

I don't trust 4chan. Waaaaaay too much partisan bee ess.

 

The violence comes from both sides, and this is Trump's America. He's been in office for nearly four years. He's been egging his supporters on from the beginning.

See comment 93 from @dairyair.

 

Oh good grief.

Trump divides us, he's been doing it since the 2016 campaign. If you want the violence, done by the left and the right, to continue, vote for Trump. He WANTS the violence to increase. His people have said as much. The riots HELP him because he doesn't have a platform to run on other than "look at what the left is doing! I alone can fix it!" Major BS, it's all he has. If he can make enough people believe him, we'll get four more years of the same, along with the current slow erosion of our three vital branches of government. Kiss your constitution goodbye if he wins in November.