Majority of Young Adults Live w/ Parents as Economy Fails Them

The left has an interesting dilemma here - they are forced to argue, at the same time, out of different sides of their mouth, that Trump does and does not have the power to do (x), that said power constitutionally does and does not lie with the states.

Thinking people pay attention to this, and see the game they play for the hyper-partisan tomfoolery it is.

 

Trump declared a national emergency, and then released these guidelines for the states

"*** In states with evidence of community transmission, bars, restaurants, food courts, gyms, and other indoor and outdoor venues where groups of people congregate should be closed."

"The President's CoronaVirus Guidelines for America"

"30 days to slow the spread"

https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/03.16.20_coronavirus-guidance_8.5x11_315PM.pdf

 

so you think the Trump guidelines were bad for American and States should of ignored Trump... got it

 

Guidelines and a mandate are two different things. If you read that first line from the CDC it says Listen to your State and Local authorities.

 

Trump declared a national emergency and then released his guidelines to the states

now, we can argue if the States should have listened to Trump or not, it's obvious you think they should have ignored Trump

 

Oh no. What Trump did was right. He didn't have the Constitutional right to usurp the States rights. It didn't matter what his own personal believes were. I would like to see more rights turned back over to the states like education and health care.

 

they were Trump's guidelines, you either agree with them or you do not, can't have it both ways

 

Sure I can. When I am around other people I wear a mask. When I am outside with my dogs I don't. I don't wear a mask around the house with my wife but have made some people who have visited me do. I have avoided restaurants until recently. I wear my mask around the servers but remove it to eat. My chance of catching Corona is about 3% if I'm active daily. A lot less if I stay in lockdown. I try and follow state guidelines.

 

Starting with JFK, there have been many attempts to reform education and they all have failed.

What is needed is a new design.

 

Incorrect.

 

Trump should have ignored the constitution?

 

The Constitution is not a suicide pact.

But I love the way you guys just keep making sh*t up..

 

LOL... run away. This is the logic trap you created. By your own demand, if you feel the President has to accept the responsibility of the cowards on the left who are destroying our nation because of their tyranny, then I expect you to sit back and watch as the President fixes the evils your party have wrought. This is what you asked for, no? And now that you actually understand the dynamic of your own logic, this is what we can expect. Sniveling. "ohh... I didn't meant it" "Orangeman bad" or other such nonsense.

 

No.

But keep up the crazy, we need the comedy relief.

 

Trump said his shutdown saved millions, is the right calling Trump a liar

Trump told the States to shut down, that is just the reality of it - the right can deny reality if they wish

"*** In states with evidence of community transmission, bars, restaurants, food courts, gyms, and other indoor and outdoor venues where groups of people congregate should be closed."

"The President's CoronaVirus Guidelines for America"

"30 days to slow the spread"

https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/03.16.20_coronavirus-guidance_8.5x11_315PM.pdf

 

So yes, you DO believe Trump should have violated the Constitution in response to CV19.
Thank you.

 

Courts have ruled that would not have violated the Constitution.

But I know, you live in a fantasy world, carry on.

 

^^^^
You know this statement is false.

 

Unless they're smart enough not to try to rent or buy property in big expensive cities, of course.

 

We get the 'system' we want. We are its masters. If we didn't want the mega corps providing us with endless 'stuff' and running the immense infrastructure that millions of voluntarily helpless people rely on, they wouldn't exist.

The problem is people.

 

A young acquaintance of mine is working through his apprenticeship in the skilled construction trades. He is still living at home with his parents right now. And, instead of wasting his money on a big truck with a big loan, and wasting it on rent, and other expensive luxuries, he has been buying gold and silver, and building up his investments. This young man will end up doing fantastic, as he has already figured out how to become financially secure.

Even though the OP insinuates that something is wrong for a young adult to live at home for awhile, it really is a great way to get started out in life. After his apprenticeship is completed, he won't be burdened down with college debt, he won't have thrown his money away on rent, instead, he will have accumulated a nice nest egg and will be making a solid middle class income and will be a productive member of society. At some point, he will buy or build his own house and will be living the American Dream, while most of his peers will be whining that the government (taxpayer) owes them free stuff.

Crank, as you know, building a solid life isn't that hard - but it surprises me how personal responsibility and self reliance has been replaced by the victimhood cult - see the OP above. So what if a youngster lives with his/her parents for awhile. That is a wonderful opportunity to get one's financial life in order, and be set for a good life. A good work ethic and frugal financial decisions is all it takes, but that is too much to ask nowadays I guess.

 

Couldn't possibly agree more. To use a very small example ... the kids our eldest graduated high school with, show this phenomenon in action. They're all 21/22 now, and the differences in where they are - and their attitudes to the future - could not be more stark, despite all coming from the same wealth demographic. Our eldest is studying a STEM field in high demand, working three jobs, and living at home stockpiling cash. He'll pay off his degree within a couple of years once he's graduated, but he'll own property before then and will be renting it out for additional income. By the time he's 30 he'll own his own home plus investment properties, and have jobs for life in the field he's chosen - and our younger two are not far behind him in the same process. By contrast, those high school contemporaries are studying idiotic degrees in fields that will never get them a decent paying job (or any job, in fact), work one part time job, and spend all their income on being hipsters. They can't wait to move out of home (because reasons), even though they have no idea how they're going to pay for that. They have zero money, no prospects, and are already thinking like rent slaves. And that's before they even begin to pay off that student debt.

The difference isn't in the kids, though. It's in the parents. Parents who think like extremely wealthy aristocrats, "oh darling, you simply must study something you're passionate about" and never ever say anything like "but you do need to consider how you'll support yourself". Parents who refuse to factor in the reality of the world these kids are moving into. It's a very specific kind of stupid vanity too, in that the parents actually regard themselves as loving and supportive. And we're not talking about trailer trash here, we're talking about educated middle-class people who think life is all hugs and art - that it's somehow vulgar to be concerned with money. VERY aristocratic thinking, in people who are nowhere near wealthy enough to have that attitude.

 

As I was reading your post, and before I got to your sentence I quoted above, I was already thinking about how lucky your eldest is to have a parent like you - so I agree with you completely. I'm proud of your son, and of his parents. That is good stuff right there. I like to hope that our countries are filled with people like you and your son, and that all of this screaming for free stuff is coming from a very small, but very vocal minority, but I fear my hope is misplaced.

 

There are more and more of them, now. They've seen the millenials fall down, and want better.

 

I have never seen as.many young people having to live with their parents! Its the quality of jobs they have to take. Plus looks like these young people are not marrying as my generation did. They can't afford it.

I keep hearing stories of college degrees and debt where the degree is useless. Middle age French poetry! Yet none of my grandkids know of anyone with useless degrees. Yet the stories always show up on sites that have conservative posters! Lol

Service sector economies are low wage jobs most being part time. That is why kids are living with parents.So it is or should be expected.

The cost of disemboweling our country of value added jobs is great.