Excess Deaths

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  1. Lesh

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    January?

    Were people dying in January of covid?

    Why include a month that is irrelevant? Why not just use 2019 and pretend THAT shows something relevant...

    Give up. Your L...er..."error" has been exposed
     
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    We don know whether people were dying in January.
    Hysteria started in March.
    Everything is relevant.
    People's rights were taken away without justification.
     
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    NOTHING of the sort occurred!
     
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    That's not what the federal judge in western PA determined last month. He ruled that the measures taken by PA Governor were unconstitutional, that rights HAD BEEN abridged.
     
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    He was appointed by Trump...right?

    No politics there huh?
     
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    That graph that they keep parading around like a holy idol is akin to the “hockey stick” graph that the climate change fanatics were parading around with over 10 years ago. Odds are good that these are the same people only united under a different front. It’s funny how in one sentence they are saying how they don’t trust the CDC under the Trump Administration because they think that Trump is corrupting it and using the CDC as a political weapon, yet in the very next sentence they are claiming that the CDC information is 100% accurate and that we should trust the science because it is making Trump look bad. You can’t win with these fools.
     
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    Despite all of the reported miscounts and false positives, right?
     
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    It's comic relief at least.
     
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    This bogus thread started with what were purported to be CDC stats.

    I posted the actual stats from the CDC in graph form. And they EXPOSE the premise of this thread as bullshit

    Sorry if that bothers you
     
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    False positives?

    You mean dead people that were not really dead?

    when they stick em in the ground...they're DEAD my friend
     
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    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We told doctors to stop offering normal preventative services for cancer/high blood pressure/heart disease/diabetes, except for emergencies, so they could be on "stand by" for the flood of Covid patients. That flood did not come, except as regional sporadic and temporary hot spots. The hospitals across the country emptied out to reserve beds for the flood of Covid patients. The flood never came.

    People were terrified to seek medical help. People died at home. People who should have sought help sooner died in emergency rooms. All those people who had detectable virus particles in their system when admitted to emergency or post-mortem are Covid deaths.

    Relying on exaggerated model forecating and following "expert" advice to lock people down may be the biggest crime against humanity ever committed.

    Shutting down vast health resources to wait for a virus which wasn't too virulent after all, then being surprised that bodies piled up during those months seems to ignore the obvious.
     
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    Wasn’t too virulent? Over 200,000 dead says you’re not only wrong... but spectacularly wrong
     
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    Except that 6% of your excess deaths in that graph brings COVID-19 down to being not much worse than Obama’s Swine Flu. I hope that bothers you.
     
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    The first known case in China is traced back to November. CDC has determined that the virus was circulating here by January.

    But, no, I would not expect that more than a teeny percent of people were dying in January from Covid. If they did, they got chalked up as "probable influenza". Hospitals were still open, so patients were getting their scheduled health care for cancer/heart disease/diabetes on time with no interruptions in their medical needs.
     
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    Yes, it's a great global tragedy.

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    Meaning that even the intel got to Trump way too late(thank you China.). There's nothing that no one could've done and if Biden were President, the election narrative would be reversed. It'd be Biden protected, and the outsider would be blaming Biden for it.
     
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    No one disputes that those things are happening.

    But it's NOT happening in large enough numbers to account for even a fraction of the excess deaths.

    You began this bogus thread using dishonest numbers from a right wing blog and you've made yourself look..."less than accurate". There are better descriptions of your attempt here that the site will not allow
     
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    [​IMG]

    The green (above the red line) accounts for the non-covid excess deaths
     
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    If Hillary had won, the media might actually be blaming China for the virus. It certainly would not have been "Hillary's fault."
     
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    Expanded

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    I began this blog with numbers from CDC. Is CDC a right wing blog now? LOL

    I had my numbers off by three weeks. That error was corrected many pages ago.

    The excess deaths this year, outside of nursing homes, come mostly from shutting down and hoarding our normal health care resources and services to plan for a virus which barely showed up as a serious malady for the general population.
     
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    :roflol::roflol::roflol:
     
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    We ran a grand, global experiment called, "Let's shut down global doctor's offices and hospitals and see what happens."
     
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    The other experiment. Are citizens at the point where planned fear will make them accept authoritarian/totalitarian power? How far can people be pushed to give up the ability to earn a livelihood and pay their bills before they break? Is "safeguarding health" a good enough message to strip away rights, liberty and force compliance?

    Seems to be working on the majority of the global population. Not a lot of resistance to totalitarian control.

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    https://www.aier.org/article/the-year-of-disguises/amp/
     
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    I imagine the MAJORITY of "reporters" (and I can think of a more appropriate word) lean LEFT, as we conservatives can TAKE it, as well as DISH it out in spades, a pleasure not afforded here.
     
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