Excess Deaths

Why would you keep bumping this bogus thread that makes you look so stubbornly stu...er wrong?

 

Because you keep replying (which bumps the thread) and it is so enjoyable exchanging banter with you. You're such a warm and positive person, always sending out good vibes. I bet you've always voted for the party of tolerance, haven't you?

 

~ Seeing the direction of where things are going that is likely to be the case. However there is still hope - depending on how the next few U.S. elections go .

 

~ This is called "therapy" .

 

They just mount another retread and come back under another name.

 

Same name I have always had and I'll debunk your bullshit every time

 

Do you understand you are trying to use CDC data plus your assumptions to dispute CDC data that says your wrong?

 

6% of that figure as reported by the CDC...not much deadlier than Obama’s Swine Flu. I wonder if these “excess deaths” or whatever you want to call them would not have happened had we not been under lockdowns? Nobody was locked down during Obama’s Swine Flu. My personal quarantine for H1N1 in 2009 was only for 3 days, for example, and I was asymptomatic during that one.

 

He's saying if the coronavirus deaths are to be isolated from April-present, that means all deaths outside of that time period was already at 2019 levels.

 

` ~ That's because we took $aint Obama's advice to "sneeze in our sleeve - not in our hands" .

 

That's why you count excess deaths. It debunks that theory.
If you want to say 94% had comorbidities, go ahead and say it, but don't try and tell us they were going to die anyway, because 133 million Americans have those comorbidities.

 

Posting this chart is an attempt of statistical cherry picking.
The point is that number of deaths caused by COVID-19 is exaggerated.

 

What part is cherry picking?

 

Apparently comparing the actual time period when Covid deaths occurred to previous years during the SAME time period...is cherry picking.

In some alternate reality

 

They could even try to do it the same way LSG tried to do it if they were willing to spend the time finding the data.
For example good data is available on a weekly basis just by clicking on the blue bars. Or you can download the weekly data thru October. Then you wouldn't have to make bad assumptions.

 

No, that means that the bulk of covid death occurred between April and October

Is this tough for you folks?

 

Do you prefer this chart?

 

6% of that spike as reported by the CDC isn’t quite as bad as you are making it out to be. Nice-looking graph though. You seem to like it. You keep posting it because that seems to be your entire argument in this thread, so more power to you.

 

See #188

 

Why would you count excess deaths just to satisfy the left’s fearmongering, when the CDC has already reported the TrueCovid death totals at 6% of that inflated number, knowing that there are miscounts galore as well as false positives? You leftists are willfully deceiving the public with these phantom numbers for the sole purpose of getting Trump out of office.

 

No, you didn't hear the story because you were too busy misrepesenting it. It really is difficult to work out at theis point if Trumpsters simply aren't bright enough to understand the most basic points or are just obfuscating because they don't want to admit the truth.

So, I'll explain this carefully just so people understand that the grown ups among us know what games they are playing.

The problem with this entire thread is that it is yet another distraction. Another exercise in playing little games with numbers to avoid the truth. There is only one reason we need to discuss excess deaths - because the Trumpsters & conspiracy theorists are either too stupid or too dishonest to accept that the official death toll for COVID is broadly accurate. Thus we had the '6%' lie driven by either, again, the inability to understand what 'co-factors' are or deliberate obfuscation.

Excess death figures provide an additional data point to show that approximately the same number of people who have officially died of COVID have died above what is expected. As a result the only relevant comparisons are with the weeks when COVID has resulted in a statistically significant number of deaths. That means from the last week of March onward, or the middle of March to be generous. Any previous months are irrelevant. The week by week data is easily available - it is actually in the links you provided. Guess what? Starting in late March the number of deaths per week not only rise sharply, but are thousands of deaths per week above comparable weeks pre-COVID or expected numbers given previous patterns. In some cases tens of thousands of deaths higher. There is simply no getting around those numbers, no matter how many lies, misrepresentations & obfuscations people engage in.

No one has provided a single, credible data-based explanation for this sudden and sustained rise in deaths that does not use COVID as the overwhelming explanation. The best they can do is make stuff up, play silly number games, resort to conspiacy theories or straight out lie.

 

More to the point, why did they all just suddenly start dying in numbers so dramatically higher than the past right at the time COVID hit. What suddenly changed? It wasn't being indoors. It wasn't lack of medical resources, as according to them COVID took up only 10% of the resources we know it took up. So what changed? No one has even attempted an explanation because they know what it is - COVID

 

No excess deaths because the flu has been cured lol.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/MDVYXo5Fg3Lb/

 

Your FAILURE to EXPLAIN why there is a SURGE in deaths OVER and ABOVE the norm is YOUR problem, not mine.

 

But there really isn’t. 12,000-ish more deaths than last year, while tragic, is not a catastrophic number. COVID-19 is bad for some, relatively speaking, but nothing worse than the flu in any given year.