Biden’s Phlegmatic, Divisive Speech Burns Bridges to Trump’s America

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  1. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Factually INCORRECT!

    Conservatives donations support their OWN personal beliefs as opposed to giving to GENUINE charities that actually support the less fortunate.
     
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    :applause:
     
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    CenterField Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ^Senile Biden Man BAD!

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    I'm a doctor. I treat Covid-19 hospitalized patients. This iconic photo reflects exactly what we do. We are very proficient now in employing the best treatment protocols (when available; some drugs are in short supply) and use all the technical knowledge we have accumulated over the year this disease has been among us, but we are ALSO compassionate.
     
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    No I'm calling the lies you repeat endlessly, ad infinitum, lies.
     
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    Thanks to you and the rest of the medical community for what they do. Don't get beat down by the covid deniers and their vitriol. There are many of us who appreciate the doctors and nurses, and who think that they deserve as much praise as the soldiers, who also risk their lives for the greater good.
     
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    Actually it's the truth. Had the federal government operated in it's standard fashion we'd be looking at another year at least before they even got started on a vaccine. Trump got the private sector involved and began as a shortage of PPE became a surplus within a year. Same thing happened certain medical devices that began in short supply. Trump has consistently followed the science and done his best to keep up with it which is more than I can say for Blue state governors and mayors who seem hell bent on using covid to reward their friends and destroyer their enemies pretty much without any regard to science at all.
     
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    More examples of you playing well with others...
    Seems like it was you all along...
     
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    If I spoke lies how come you cannot logically or honestly dispute what I say.
     
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    Think about it this way. What you have just written is actually the problem. They aren't losing their livelihood because their operations aren't viable. They are losing their livelihood because government is forcing the industry to change. And much like when democrats shuttered their economies this year, government is the one forcing the pain. How is it incumbent then on individuals harmed by government to find their own solution then? Your position seems callous at best. But you're in favor of the harm government is imposing on those folks, and have now written it. More, you seem to want to purposefully resettle folks. China does that.. Think about the ramifications of adopting your admonitions here. Families displaced, by government because government has decided to make a choice that damages them and those communities.
     
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    Good one. So in your mind government can use force and it must be the individual who then compensates for it. Got it. Remember you wrote this. So, just for grins, what is your prescription for folks forced out of their industry by government?
     
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    More 2+2 equals some random number above 235. At the time the the statement was made late January early February the media was castigating for travel restrictions and quarantining Americans brought back from China. A month later of course they were spinning on a dime and complaining he wasn't doing enough though it's unclear what more he could have done that he could lawfully do without a declaration of martial law which Dems and neocons would have slapped down so quick it would make your head spin.
     
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    I have on numerous occasions I say repeat because they don't originated with you. Note Trump if nothing else is the mist misquoted president on earth, and easily the most misrepresented and lied about.
     
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    Really? You spend a lot of time here. I don't know a single actively practicing physician that has the time you seem to.
     
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    Are doctors not allowed to have a hobby? What about your own 17,625 posts? Do you not have a job?
     
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    TRUMP: “As a result of Operation Warp Speed, Pfizer announced on Monday that its China virus vaccine was more than 90% effective. ...Pfizer said it wasn’t part of Warp Speed, but that turned out to be an unfortunate misrepresentation.”

    THE FACTS: Not so much. Pfizer notably did not accept government money to develop, test or expand manufacturing capacity under Trump’s Operation Warp Speed initiative to quickly find a vaccine and treatments for the disease sweeping the country.

    In fact, Pfizer partnered with the vaccine’s original developer, Germany’s BioNTech, in March and the following month announced the first human study in Germany. The White House announced Operation Warp Speed in May.
     
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    So, put this in perspective. If Center right was actively practicing, and as all accounts have indicated, these providers are working endlessly taking care of patients 20 hours a day. (we can cite the MSM reporting on this is you'd find it necessary to quantify this observation) it seems a tad extraordinary that said poster has the time to participate at the level they do here. One thing to remember, I never asserted that I'm on the front line caring for patients of Covid. Perhaps even you can see the incongruence there....
     
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    Note the phrase Germany. Other countries have historically got the vaccine stuff and other stuff done more quickly, on the other had we have avoided things like Thalidomide babies. Moderna also has a vaccine in the pipeline as well and it was developed through operation warp speed. Note some reports suggest that the pfizer vaccine can cause an allergic response in some people with food allergens.
     
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    When it comes to which member comes across as a qualified medical practitioner in this forum it is clear that @CenterField KNOWS what he is talking about which is a whole lot MORE than can be said for the content of your posts.
     
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    The point is it's disingenuous to claim these pharm companies would have taken a year to get a vaccine had it not been for Trump.
     
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    From my experience with you, that standard is pretty low and is only derived at because you agree with their posting.
     
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    So you calling @CenterField a liar? Me thinks, from his posts, it is entirely possible that he is a medical doctor. He is definitely one of the most knowledgeable ones on this forum when it comes to covid.
     
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    Yes, I do agree with FACTUAL POSTS that contain CREDIBLE information <Mod Edit>
     
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    Exactly. Most of the so-called charity of conservatives is in giving to their church or the Boy Scouts, essentially donating to their clubs, their social hangouts. Not exactly charity,
     
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    How would you know?
     
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    The other day I saw this woman on the news. She was an intensive care nurse. She was talking about Trump supports. Said that many of them refused to accept that they had the virus. Some, she said, expressed their denial, in their last dying breaths.
     
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