Which country is the greatest threat to the Western world?

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Which country is the biggest threat to the Western world?

  1. China

    34 vote(s)
    61.8%
  2. Russia

    4 vote(s)
    7.3%
  3. Iran

    1 vote(s)
    1.8%
  4. North Korea

    1 vote(s)
    1.8%
  5. Other?

    15 vote(s)
    27.3%
  1. Reasonablerob

    Reasonablerob Well-Known Member

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    I doubt it, America is still strong an united, the impression given by the noisy minority does not represent the nation.
     
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    They discusses socialism, according to your source, not communism.
    And so what. You're not proving that Allende was a communist.
    Trump also has talks with communists. He rents out office space to them in China.
    Probably for a high price to buy their way in to get a special treatment in the US.
    Doesn't make Trump a communist.

    You mean, there was a communistic party in Iran and Mossadegh wasn't part of it.
    Yet you claim he was a communist.


    You failed to prove your point.
    No communistic connection.
    You don't even dare to quote from your sources.

    Already said that the US aided the WMD war of Sadam, with resources, technical information, and military support.
    Already said that the US supports the genocide against the people of Yemen, with militarily support.
    Already said that the US supports the ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians outside Israel.

    Nope. The US installed the oil for food program, and because of that half a million muslim children died due to drinking contaiminated water.
    All for the sake that Iraq had to give up WMD's, that the did not have to give up. All they found is the chemical waist from the 1980's, the stuff the sold to Iraq for the WMD war against Iran.

    Freaking A, rob... IT'S THEIR OWN FREAKING COUNTRY! And here you are supporting a genocide to let other people rule over their lands without them.
    Bravo.

    Dude... 6th of january. Violent fascists tried to take over the US. They are the most violent domestic group by far. They kill all the time.
    If YOU want to know how many, than YOU go look it up. The FBI keeps track of it.
     
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    I no longer believe America is as united as you think it is. I think most people would happily split up the nation at this point. I don't think that will happen because we would then spend the next 2 decades trying unsuccessfully to figure out how to split the nation, never do so, and then likely kill each other.
     
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    seems it leads it tho.
     
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    Reasonablerob Well-Known Member

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    An adjective you could apply to both sides?
     
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    Reasonablerob Well-Known Member

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    I disagree, the negative reaction to the Capitol riot on the right surely proves that?
     
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    Castro's version of socialism was communism, all factions of Chilean society accused him of trying to become a dictator. Mossadegh was allying himself with the Iranian communists and it was a short step. Yes, you've already said these things and are wrong about all of them. Iraq still had thousands of nerve gas shells and its' uranium stockpile. The Houthis started this war and are Iran's stooges, if they win they let Iran control the Suez canal and Straits of Hormuz and can hold the world to ransom.

    No, on January 6th a small section of a legitimate protest turned into a riot, that's all and the far right in America commit virtually no violence at all, the left are the problem.
     
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    bla bla bla.... you've put up a link, but are unable to post a line where it says that. I showed that with 4 of your sources now.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna7634313
    CIA’s final report: No WMD found in Iraq

    You either now admit it or you're just still brainwashed by the GOP lies made up by GWB since 2003.

    This is all pure nonsense in order to justify a genocide. It's like hearing a Russian say that killing all Americans is good, cause they are holding the world at random atm.

    A legit protest? Your leader and his closets goons rallied all those "protesters" and told them to have a trial by combat, to take back the country without showing weakness, you need to fight like hell to get it back etc.... and so they all marched and went on it. I've yet to see you lot have a march that you're a GOP supporter, but not like that,... like the Muslims did. Currently the only chatter that's around is that the GOP supporters are going to try again, making the army showing up. It's going to be the weirdest inauguration ever because of the violent white.

    And all previous years it showed that the fascist right kill the most.
    Easaly to be sourced.
    So it's just all bla bla bla again.
     
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    nope, just skewed perception from tainted information sources.
     
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    Wow. Ironic.
     
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    Notice any difference in a side by side photo of Trump's cabinet vs Biden's cabinet? Degree of representation of America does have a mitigating factor, don't you think?
     
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    Could @Moi621 have been correct all along.....??????

    Could it be Canada???????


    Are many of Joe Biden's troubles P. M. Justin Trudeau's fault?


    Hundreds of thousands that is!!!!????






     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Look man, moi is wrong. don't believe him when he tries desperately to uncover our plot to first take over America and then the world. All is proceeding as planned. Stand around up back by and all around everywhich way for victory is nigh!
     
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    My humble apologies..... my bad..... my very, very bad!!!!!





    The Canadian Conspiracy (1985)
     
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    No, tragic.
     
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    No I don't, I don't believe in tokenism.
     
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    Which you could apply to both sides?
     
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    Happy?

    The Secret Casualties of Iraq’s Abandoned Chemical Weapons - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

    500 tons of uranium shipped from Iraq, Pentagon says - CNN.com

    It's not genocide, the anti-Houthi forces are just trying to stop them taking over the country and turning it into another Iran;

    Houthi movement - Wikipedia

    Okay then, if it's so easaly sourced, do it, show us all?
     
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    "effort to destroy munitions that could be used in makeshift bombs"... so they weren't bombs to be uses as bombs.
    "Filthy, rusty or corroded, a large fraction of them could not be readily identified as chemical weapons at all."... so they weren't bombs to be uses as bombs.

    "the American government did not find what it had been looking".... so there were no WMD's.
    "The United States government says the abandoned weapons no longer pose a threat.".... bingo.

    Your source proves I am right, and you are wrong.


    So what. Low grade uranium isn't a WMD.

    It's THEIR OWN country. And it's genocide because people who are not part of the forces get killed on a massive scale. Small detail you're leaving out.

    https://theconversation.com/us-comp...emen-spans-obama-trump-administrations-106896
    More than 22 million people out of a total population of 28 million are in need of humanitarian aid and protection. Eighteen million people lack reliable access to food; 8.4 million people “do not know how they will obtain their next meal.”

    It already caused 85.000 children to die from hunger... and we stopped counting them in the last 2 years.
    The blood is on the hands of the Americans.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Famine_in_Yemen_(2016–present)


    HRW says that they got multiple reports that the US sold outlawed cluster bombs to Saudi Arabia, and they used it against civilians.
    Amnesty International confirmed that this was going on.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saudi_Arabian-led_intervention_in_Yemen#Usage_of_cluster_munitions


    So we got Americans and Saudi's combining forces and telling the Houti's while they are being massacred in a genocide that they must obey them in their own country. It's pure terrorism!

    http://letmegooglethat.com/?q=right+wing+terrorist+kill+most+FBI+statistics
     
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    Yes they were leftovers from his 1990s stockpile which after the liberation had been abandoned for years, the Allies never found the WMDs manufacturing system they sought but they sure as hell found WMDs. The uranium had one purpose and one purpose only, Iraq, sitting on a lake of oil has no need for civil nuclear power. Yes, sell whatever it takes to the Saudis and make sure they win because the alternative is unthinkable. The US and Saudi are fighting terrorism and Yemen and good luck to them.
     
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    So, do you actually see that while saying that racism is down, you made a racist statement???
     
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    Reasonablerob Well-Known Member

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    I never made one, black on black violence and the inevitable judicial consequences are a national tragedy. Say I'm wrong?
     
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    Your source says they DID NOT FIND what they were looking for. My source says so too.
    I'm not interested in your biased opinion.

    Low grade uranium is what they found and it can't be used for a bomb. As for your one and only purpose... it's no. It's dual use. You can even treat cancer with that, or sell it like any other natural resource. The US uses it to reinforce metal for their shells.

    So in other words you admit that the US is fighting the indigenous population halfway across the world to be violently oppressed by them and Saudi Arabia. And with your "whatever it takes" you indeed support the genocidal way, that has been costing 80.000 children to die, to break their will.

    That just adds to your white privilege comments previously.
     
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    The racist statement is when you mentions the "shortcomings" of an entire race.
    Do talk about individuals who have committed violent crimes and say it's a problem, indeed it is. But mentioning the "shortcomings" of blacks is indeed racist. But I'm not surprised that you don't see it.
     
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    is that what it looks like to you? a reflection of the demographic of america and you think its tokenism.

    Bet you be a white boy.
     

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