Which country is the greatest threat to the Western world?

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Which country is the biggest threat to the Western world?

  1. China

    34 vote(s)
    61.8%
  2. Russia

    4 vote(s)
    7.3%
  3. Iran

    1 vote(s)
    1.8%
  4. North Korea

    1 vote(s)
    1.8%
  5. Other?

    15 vote(s)
    27.3%
  1. Reasonablerob

    Reasonablerob Well-Known Member

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    A tiny, tiny and unrepresentative minority, the US is about the freest and most democratic nation on earth. Would that the rest of the world was made in its' image.
     
  2. Reasonablerob

    Reasonablerob Well-Known Member

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    The EU has no problem with the US, the Chinese tyranny has no problem and the opinion of the Venezuelan communist catastrophe matters to whom exactly?
     
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    All of whom would say yes because these are all tyrannies which America is opposed to except Iraq where America deposed the god-awful dictator and strives to prop up a democratic regime.
     
  4. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Why do you say Vietnam is a tyranny?
     
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  5. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Again, isn't it difficult to get about with all those roses growing from your butt?
     
  6. Reasonablerob

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    Reasonablerob Well-Known Member

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    I don't know, if that's your fetish you tell us? I mean I'm not judging....
     
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    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    So the world would be a better place without the US and China, Iran, Russia and Turkey dominated the world? China and Iran and Russia and Turkey are the "good guys"?
     
  9. notme

    notme Well-Known Member

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    I think we both can agree there are plenty of racist Karens around and racist incidents in general sky rocketed. Not to forget a wide support for pro slaver flag waving, and a wide support for pro enslaving war "heros" monuments. A tiny tiny underrepresented minority my tooshy.
     
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    The US fully supported that god-awful dictator when he was on that WMD rampage, supplying him with the technology, the resources to build them, and militarily info where and how to use them. That oil for food program the US later installed caused caused half a million Iraqi children to die, because the US forbid that Iraq was able to decontaminate water for drinking. The US currently supports a geocidal campaign in Yemen. The US currently supports ethnic cleansing by Israel. The US is responsible for the massacred of 40,000's of civilians in Afghanistan. The US executed high ranking Iraqi's with no trial what so ever in an attempt to start a war there too.

    There is a similar list to be made about how the US treated Latin America in the past,... and present.

    American soldiers were called baby killers in the past, because they massacred civilians where and when they wanted.
    All the way back to deliberately targeting German civilians and Japanese civilians in WWII.


    It's all fair when the US does that, but not the other way around.
    Even today, nuclear bombing civilians is considered to be totally fine.
    But good lord,... if Iran was going to do that.... we can't be having that!
    They aint white enough for it.
     
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    And there it is, the American assumption that we're loved round the world and they'll welcome us by throwing flowers at our feet if only the politicians were brave enough...

    Saddam was OUR dictator in the 80s. Once we overthrew him in our effort to overthrow the legitimate ruler of a sovereign nation so we could install a government favorable to the plan to put large military bases in Iraq and thus better threaten Iran, how'd that flowers in the street thing work out? Not so good I hear.

    Maybe we did better in Somalia? No,guess not. How about the Philippines and Panama? Oops, they tossed us on our good guy ears.

    Seems the rest of the world doesn't quite view American hegemony with quite the favorable eye as you.
     
  12. Reasonablerob

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    No, the US is less racist than any time in it's history, just African Americans are crying to term more often because they want to play the victim rather than address their own failings. It's not wrong to want to commemorate the Confederacy, anyone who ever watched Ken Burns knows that, no one espouses racism or wants a return to Joe Crow or slavery.
     
  13. Reasonablerob

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    Darn right, the Iranians were the greatest threat and subsequent events have proven this policy sound. The US no longer seeks hegemony over Latin America, with the Cold War over what would be the point? The US have shown more mercy in their campaigns than anyone else in history (aside from we Brits of course), the German/Japanese civilians were those supporting the war effort. The US is one of the freest and most democratic countries on earth, Iran is a theocratic nightmare of a tyranny which exports terrorism and threatens the destruction of its' neighbours.
     
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    It's a lost cause.
     
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    China, beyond all others. Which does not mean the others are not a threat, they most certainly are. But it is China with the financial muscle, the vast quantity of successfully stolen advanced technology, the intent and the means to build themselves first into a regional Pacific Power and finally a Global Military Power. All with beliefs in how nations should be governed that are in violent opposition to the free democracies of the world.
     
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    It's still rather very racist. Stats show that despite white people do/sell drugs more, that black people are hunted down 3x more often by the cops over such crimes. And when arrested, the white people again get far less convictions going than black people. And ones convicted white people get on average a lesser sentence than black people UNDER THE SAME CIRCUSTANCES. And ones in jail, white people get on parole earlier as well.

    It's at every turn. And these are facts. You know they are. I've sourced these a lot on this forum.

    There is something very wrong to commemorate a bunch of racist thugs and traitors to the country.
     
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    Good to read you do not contest the terroristic practices of the Americans of killing civilians all over the globe.
    You're just sweettalking them. Very cute.
     
  18. Reasonablerob

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    Yes because black people are more involved in violent crime, hence their more significant sentencing. The Confederates were wrong plain and simple but one quarter of their men died in the war with another quarter maimed, they should be allowed to commemorate.
     
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    Like what? What terrorist practices? Where does the US use violence for political ends in a free and democratic society exactly? Killing terrorists and those who support them worldwide is a good thing, hit them before they hit us.
     
  20. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    A lot of Germans died in WWII. Should they be allowed to erect statues of Rommel and Guderian?
     
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    I already responded to this in an other forum how the cops are predominantly racist and part of the problem, besides they are significantly more violent against their own family than anybody else which leaves little imagination of how they react to people they don't know and are black.

    They shouldn't be commemorated. But if you must, can commemorate your violent and racist ancestors in private. It's well known the US as a nation to until rather recent had the rather racist habit to GLORIFY those who lead the armies who demanded black people to be enslaved by building monuments to be placed on massive pedestals of like a 100 feet in exceptionally public places. That's treating the worst of the racists in the past as a heroes.

    What should be commemorated is that the US did that until BLM made an end to the insanity, to much disgust of right wing conservative America.
     
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    They way @Reasonablerob is going... he would support getting a statue of Hitler in the capitol... because lots of Americans have a German ancestry and he was a great leader.
     
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    They did that in most of Latin America and to Iran. The US removed the democratically elected government of Iran to install a corrupt terroristic shah who handed over natural resources to the US in return. When Iran removed that terrorist, the US than turned to Iraq to sell the resources, the technical info how to manufacture and the military support for an illegal WMD war against Iran.

    It's also sheer terrorism that the US targeted civilians in about any war it was in. We discussed this previously.
     
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    * The U.S. gave the CIA a million dollars to stage a coup to destroy the DEMOCRATIC nation of Iran.
    * The U.S. invaded, occupied and started a war with the purpose of stopping the DEMOCRATIC elections in Vietnam.
    * The U.S. invaded and set up a blockade around DEMOCRATIC Cuba.

    How many more examples would you like me to show you?


    The Vietnamese were not "terrorists".
    The Iranians were not "terrorists".
    The Cubans were not "terrorists".
    The Iraqis were not "terrorists"

    How many more examples would you like me to show you?
     
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    Yes, unless they were directly involved in war crimes, yes.
     

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