US MILITARY LAUNCHES COORDINATED STRIKES AGAINST AMERICAN TV HOST

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  1. Lil Mike

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    I would ask for a specific quote that is anti-women but you just say he implied something.
     
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    Basically this..

    The video is discussing how China's Navy now surpasses our own. He then discusses how the Military ( and Biden) are working on updating allowed hair styles and maternity flight suits.. THAT is why he brought up "pregnant women"

    Context something Progressives simply do not understand in their rush to smear.

    Somehow that became "anti women" and "bigotry".,...
     
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    Carlson noted that the Department of Defense is creating body armor and flight suits for pregnant women, and is planning to change female hairstyle requirements. He also railed against the Chief of Naval Operations’ addition of the book “How To Be Antiracist,” by American University professor Ibram X. Kendi, to the Navy’s official reading list. Columbia University professor John McWhorter described Kendi’s arguments as “facile and subjective.”

    “I can’t for the life of me understand why [Chief of Naval Operations Admiral Mike Gilday] would defend having this book on his reading list,” Republican Indiana Rep. Jim Banks told Carlson, promising to ask Gilday about the assignment during a congressional hearing.


    Read the article people...


    A series of classified war games conducted by the Defense Department, most recently in 2020, found that the Chinese military consistently won in confrontations with the United States. “The trend in our war games was not just that we were losing, but we were losing faster,” Air Force Lt. Gen. S. Clinton Hinote told Yahoo News.


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    No I hate what the dumb political generals are doing to our military.
     
  5. Lil Mike

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    So we're becoming a less effective military force...but we will have pregnancy flight suits.
     
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    “So we’ve got new hairstyles and maternity flight suits. Pregnant women are going to fight our wars," he said on his Fox News program Tuesday, referring to new grooming standards in the Army and a program to develop a flight suit for pregnant military personnel. "It's a mockery of the U.S. military.

    Does Carlson just not like women? Do they intimidate him? Why does he care that women serve in our military? He’s beyond stupid if he believes women serving in our military somehow makes our military weaker, since women serving in the military is not a new thing. Is he not aware women have served in the military for decades.
     
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    What is it you believe they are doing and why does it have you so emotional?
     
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    "
    Kirby was responding to comments made by Fox News host Tucker Carlson, who said during his March 9 show that Biden’s Department of Defense is more focused on woke adventurism than winning wars"

    Biden's policies -both foreign and domestic - are the same Status Quo nonsense - with all emphasis on "Hot Button issues" rather than addressing systemic problems.

    "Winning Wars" - and Kirby is a Status Quo Clown, obviously, parroting the tried and true false narrative that has been duping the US public for many decades now - into pouring Trillions of Dollars - into fruitless efforts with no Return on Investment - to pad the pockets of the international financiers that run our military industrial complex.

    What Wars ? Where are these big wars we need to win .. Where are we at war in the world - as in US soldiers fighting on the front line of some major war - supported by the US war machine.

    Where is such a war ? .. last one we had was Iraq .. other than the continuing mess in Afghanistan..

    Sure we were involved in Libya, Syria, Yemen - but this was indirectly - no major US military involvement or troops on the ground.

    Surely our Military is capable of handling what ever needs be asked of it - 1000 times over. How many soldiers were involved in Syria - Yemen - Libya ?

    And if we are counting Afghanistan .. what did Kirby do to win that "War" which is not a war but an exercise in adventurism .. as were all the other aforementioned conflicts in which were were involved - none of which constitute a war that we had a legitimate chance of using US military might to "Win".

    So what on earth is Kirby talking about .. where are these Wars that we need to win .. where is this massive enemy massing on our shores - threatening the homeland - such that we need to be concerned with "winning" - to the tune of 1.2 Trillion dollars a year .. when 120 Billion would be more than enough.

    These are clowns on a state - spewing narratives they know are false.
     
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    Missing the point.. Again... For those who do not want to read anything and just scream.. China's military is surpassing our own... Our own military admits we lose war games against them and its just going to get worse at this point and what you quoted is what we are focused on.. THAT IS THE ****ING POINT. We could lose a war with China and we are worried about what ****ing hair styles are allowed?
     
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    Yup.. And all they get is derp derp omg yer a bigot and hate teh women derp derp.
     
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    he said that women do not make good pilots because they need custom flight suits for pregnancy
     
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    And all we get for you is derp derp omg the military is only focused on hair styles derp derp.
     
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    You nailed it. 100%

    The military is now focusing on elements that will do nothing for readiness. Letting "woke" into the U.S. Military is as stupid as it comes.
     
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    And in true Tucker fashion, he took the high road in his response to the backlash.

    "It was quite an experience yesterday being the very first target in the Pentagon's new 'Operation Silence the Talk Show Host.' For a minute, we'll concede we were almost rattled. Then we realized if the woke generals treat us like they've treated the Taliban, we'll be fine. Twenty years later, the Taliban are still here," Carlson said.

    Our Commander in Chief for the past four years wasn't 'woke' - why didn't he eradicate the Taliban? I'm guessing his digging in like this is only going to produce juicier and juicier tidbits going forward.
     
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    if women had properly tailored flight suits for pregnancy, they could be just as good as men
     
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    You seem to lack candor in the methods you use to discuss issues here - why is that?

    Do you not consider that you can achieve a beneficial result, win or lose through a more straightforward approach?

    Perhaps I infer too much, many vets suffer short term memory loss, and not all from service related experiences, at least not while on the clock.

    Why did you ask what he said? Have you actually come this far into the thread and not bothered to switch a tab to see what he said? I find that hard to believe.

    Which part of his segment did you not find egregious?

    Tucker Carlson who has never served commenting on the feminization and readiness of our military?

    You are ok with that - by definition, since you ask what was egregious about it.

    Then, by definition this means that you don't see anything in his words as problematic.

    You are ok with his claim that allowing pregnant women to serve in combat is not satisfactory.

    You are ok with his claim that modification of hairstyle and uniform requirements and body armor to support the women who serve in our armed forces weakens our military.

    Implicitly by not addressing any of these points while asking what he said that was so egregious you provide that you support all of these statements.

    Subsequently you point out that Tucker never explicitly said they should be discharged?

    What is the military to do with them then? According to Tucker, military analyst that he is, pregnant women should never serve a combat role.

    Well, then, are women supposed to sign a waiver to commit to get an abortion to serve in a combat position, or simply be disallowed from it?
     
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    Women will likely always serve in our military. However, it is much more efficient to have an all male force. The fact that they do require different uniforms and protective gear adds costs because of design and manufacturing considerations.

    Hair styles are significant because they must fit under protective gear. That excess hair causes problems just like it causes problems for men with beards. The fact that they can get pregnant requires extra medical staff.

    For whatever reason, when I entered the Air Force as a meteorologist in 1959, there were very few females in that career field. By the time I retired in 1979, they made up around one quarter of the career field. It caused complications. They required separate barracks which made supervision more complicated. As a male, I could not enter their barracks without prior notification.

    We typically had one of our weather people out next to the runway as a weather observer twenty four hours a day 365 days a year.. It became a very real problem to make sure they were safe out there by them selves.

    I had no problem with their job performance. However, they made supervision much more complicated and time consuming.
     
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    I think people like Carlson should be arrested.
     
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    That attitude does not surprise me one bit.
     
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    And your quote is...?

    I didn't hear him say that in the video posted or in the article in the OP. So where is that coming from?
     
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    I'm shocked that you went to the trouble reply/quoting our conversation when it makes you look so bad. You claimed that Tucker said that pregnant women should be discharged. I asked you to provide the quote, and you provided a video which did not say that.

    So in other words, you were either not telling the truth from the beginning or were so incompetent at your "research" that you are way out of your league in this conversation. I have noticed a pattern in this thread (and others) of various outrageous claims that are never ever verified; they simply are accepted as fact.

    So to hide the fact that you screwed up, you skip over that and decide to rapid fire a bunch of questions to cover up your false claims. Those are all good questions for another thread, but I'm concerned why you were lying about what Tucker said. What was your motive? Why did you decide to do that?
     
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    Nope, by questioning what he said that was so egregious and then by only responding that he did not explicitly state that pregnant women should be discharged you implicitly find none of his actual statements egregious, and since you have again failed to address them then you obviously support his position.

    I asked three questions of you, and you disingenuously attempt to debate only the third and fail to follow the logical implications of Tuckers assertions.

    Perhaps sterilization for combat females?

    Failure to engage on topic noted.

    Edit: I never claimed that Tucker said pregnant women should be discharged. It is simply a logical consequence of his assertion that females in a combat role that are pregnant are not qualified to hold their position.

    Sorry you're having trouble keeping up with this relatively straightforward logic.
     
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    It shouldn't. It is the obvious way to deal with misogynistic bigots.

    You have a better idea?
     
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    Yes. It is called the First Amendment.
     
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    It’s utterly amazing people actually believe the US military is unable to “chew gum and walk” at the same time. As if the military has somehow lost the ability to multitask. Pretty sure that is one area the military is exceedingly good at. But as usual there are some people who just need to something to be outraged about.
     
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