The result of an arrest has nothing to do with sentencing. floyd didn't have to have terrible health, ingest fatal amounts of fent and meth, and he didn't have to do crimes. These were his choices.
Now I will address the point I made on pressure points. I should not have used the term "paralaysis" but "immobility". What I described and everyone who has undergone basic self defence has been shown is that depending on the point and the manner of interaction, you do not have to out much pressure on a specific site to cause extreme, excruciating pain which can then cause a stunning sensation, disrupt your balance and motor functions or hinder your reflexes. So you can induce motor dysfunction, balance dysfunction, involuntary muscle spasms, disorientation, drooling, and even loss of consciousness. So I am not about to get into some bullshit pissing match on how someone with proper expertise knows how easy it is to immobilize someone with pain. If someone wants to get into a semantic argument that its not paralysis just the above descriptions than fine. The point is in this specific case what the officer did was against his training and against police training. To represent it as common behaviour is and out falsehood.
Let's start at the end, I don't care about your opinion regarding what and where I teach but you're as welcome as anyone else to a free class with one of my clean gi's and a bottle of cold water. I'll pick you up at the airport. There is nothing wrong with using a restraint that does not, by it's application, damage a suspect. The coroners report states there was no damage to the neck, and I've used that technique before (as have many) with NO issues. You can still use it to restrain a larger/drugged up suspect as long as you reasonably believe there is a risk. Drugged up loons can be subtle one moment and berserk the next. That's a fact whether you like it or not, monday QB'ing is the home of many an attorney. May I suggest you leave the briefcase behind and do a ride-a-long in a busy area with the local guys and see about handcuffing some violent, drugged out felons for a bit. It's an eye opener.
Moriah do not thank me. I know better. I have seen damn good cops never do such a damn thing. They would never do what this guy did. They taught me. I had an Israeli Nurse who trained me as a medic and she was 4 feet 10" and she could immobilize a man twice her weight and size with proper techniques. I have been in many situations with mentally ill people who are violent and have seen police in impossible situations stay calm and immobilize them and never put a knee to their neck. They would put him down on his stomach and pull his legs bent backwords and collar them to his hands then roll him side ways. Been there done that. I have this to say-Floyd may not have been perfect but he was not deserving of that slow death. It was an outrage.
Yer wasting yer time with me. I am no cop hater and I have been in situations where cops and soldiers bloody well put themselves on the line for me. Believe it and my respect for your job. You got the wrong guy thinking I am pissing on cops or you unfairly but you know better and what I am saying and you bet I'm gonna argue. You know its not a go to technique. Someone like you is far too intelligent to use it unless its a last resort and don't tell me otherwise. Its out of respect I am arguing with you. I hope you know that. Total respect. Don't tell me you haven't heard it from DA's. Anways nuff said. I like you and do not like arguing with you. Not to mention you could squeeze my head like a pimple and kill me. Cheers.
I am glad you are able to set the record straight. I don't know much about how to restrain people, but I know what Derek Chauvin did wasn't right. I'll have to remember that you are a lawyer.
In a world where crimes by whites number in the thousands, you aren’t even close to making your “ most” comments relevant. Whites, like our ex president specialize in white collar crimes which though not violent, cause suffering and pain just as much through theft and fraud. Keep referencing Tucker and the other apartheid champions and you keep proving my point.
So a "lawful arrest" means you can kill somebody for no reason?. Floyd COULDN'T get away or resist, WHY did Chauvin kneel on him? And why for NINE MINUTES DESPITE SEVERAL WITNESSES AND EVEN HIS ASSOCIATES TELLING HIM FLOYD WAS DYING? I've seen a very similar demonstration, I think we had it in Phys Ed in the ninth grade. It involved the "sleeper hold' and we were told that under NO circumstances were we to keep it on for more than 30 seconds, or it would cut off blood to the brain and kill somebody. Isn't that what happened here? And shouldn't Chauvin have known better? So, a homicide doesn't mean the death was caused by someone else?
I'd say that is arguable. The suspect was combative, in the sense of not wanting to go in the car. In terms of threat, that might apply to a subject police are having to physically struggle with, who has a very big strong body build and who seems strongly under the influence of drugs and panicking.
He was resisting. And yes, he could theoretically have gotten "away" (likely not far though). The officers were having to expend a lot of effort to control him. I don't know what you expect officers to do in that situation. Just keep following the suspect trying to keep their hands on his arms as he keeps walking away? Just let the suspect continue to sit on the sidewalk or the street for an indefinite period of time? The officers would have to constantly keep an eye on him every second because he might go suddenly bolting off at any second when the are not expecting it. That's just not practical. This was not a normal situation. The police were not in complete physical control due to the size and muscular build of the suspect. It would have been unreasonable to expect them to continually have to struggle with the suspect.
She erred by not allowing for innocent. Chauvin had no clue his actions could result in some drug users demise.
You need to look up “ combative .” The phrase “ in the sense” doesn’t dilute the real meaning. He was not ready or eager to fight. To the contrary.
Lawful arrest means arrest. If you die because of your own issues that's YOUR fault. He certainly could resist, that's why the technique exists in the first place. Anyone dumb enough to let the opinions of random clowns change their lawful police tactics has no business doing the job. They're not doctors. As a guy who regularly puts people to sleep on the mat, and has my betters do the same to me a carotid choke, which you're describing but do not understand, is very dangerous. That's not what the technique does. Since you have no interest in understanding how the technique works, you may continue making up whatever suits your narrative about what went down. Just watch the video, dude. It's like you're trying really hard to not understand how this works.
How many hours would be the right number for the cops to have to deal with Floyd who used drugs? Some here act like Floyd was so submissive he simply was murdered. What I find normal for Democrats is they loved how Ashli Babbitt was murdered.
To make sure he wouldn't be going anywhere. Maybe to temporarily put an end to the physical struggle. The point was that the officers were having to expend a lot of energy to make sure he didn't get away. They were already tired out and exasperated. They didn't want to allow another struggle to happen. Here's one more thing to consider: Had Floyd suddenly gotten up in that state of mind, he might have run off and been hit by a car. He had tumbled out the side of the car facing the busy street. The officers might have felt they had some responsibility to make sure that situation did not happen. It would not have been the safest place to engage in a physical struggle. Or the officers chasing after him might have been hit by a car. Remember, it was not so easy for the officers to be in physical control of him.
A lot of hogwash. You don’t treat a man face down hands cuffed behind his back as a threat that results in his execution. No one thought so on the jury and neither did his superiors. Yes, police are trained first responders in life saving first aid......
Try laying on your stomach with your hands cuffed behind your back. Tell us how much of a threat you are.
I would first have to take drugs so sorry can't do that experiment. Try entering the capitol and going against the cop that shot to death Ashli Babbitt.
The one and only time I was put into a cops car, he had been holding his gun aimed at my head. Maybe that is what Floyd needed instead. It worked on me.
