FoxHastings said: ↑ Uh, ya, Anti-Choicers do not want women to enjoy the right of bodily autonomy...you got it!! . So you think women are so weak and stupid and irresponsible that they need the Supreme Guidance of Anti-Choicers?? LOLOL NO, it isn't....you clearly don't know what it means.... YOU have none at all, Sweetie buns....
I was going to blow off another of your "Nothin to do with Abortion" threads when I saw that last bit of pure crap which, OF COURSE, you will never and can never prove. that's just a misogynist's wet dream....nothing to do with facts...
FoxHastings said: ↑ Uh, DUH, that isn't sex education... just a righties idea of sex education so of course it's wrong. ' And, this is funny, giving a 13 year old girl birth control pills DOES prevent unwanted pregnancies...don't you know what birth control pills do !!!!!!!! That doesn't change/refute one word of what I posted...(????) And YES, women CAN get pregnant while using birth control ( but according to YOU it's ONLY a few so it doesn't matter , right ) Thank you for admitting that even when women use birth control they can get pregnant which most Anti-Choicers deny...
And yet still pro-choicers argue women NEED abortion. Something to think about. It sort of seems like you're trying to have it both ways.
And if that isn't good enough, there's always the option of waiting til your fertile phase has passed.
FoxHastings said: ↑ NO, it isn't....you clearly don't know what it means.... Is there a wild fantasy place where your response would have something to do with the post of mine you quoted? Bodily autonomy is NOT "bodily responsibility"" ( whatever TF that is) you clearly have no concept of what the right to bodily autonomy means...
IF you CHOOSE to....or NOT if you choose NOT to Hey, ask those Catholic women how that old rhythm method works ....and if they're not too busy with their 12 kids they may answer you LOLOL
You said bodily autonomy is not bodily responsibility. So who do you think should be responsible for women's bodies, if not women?
UH YAAAAAAA That is what CHOICE is ABOUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why couldn't you address post #19 ?
FoxHastings said: ↑ NO, it isn't....you clearly don't know what it means.... Is there a wild fantasy place where your response would have something to do with the post of mine you quoted? Bodily autonomy is NOT "bodily responsibility"" ( whatever TF that is) you clearly have no concept of what the right to bodily autonomy means... LOL, so now you want to discuss your made up "bodily responsibility"....can't face not understanding bodily autonomy? Your twisted convoluted comment """bodily autonomy is not bodily responsibility. So who do you think should be responsible for women's bodies"" gets a trophy for Totally Illogical Conclusion.....
Exactly. So those who can't afford to risk a pregnancy, will choose to use contraceptives and/or abstain until their non-fertile phase
You claimed that bodily autonomy is not bodily responsibility. That's not my claim, it's yours. Since you claimed it, you must have an idea of who should be responsible for women's bodies, since you believe women aren't or shouldn't be.
Why would anyone rely on it, though? Apart from the weirdo religious types, that is. It's an adjunct to less than perfect contraception.
FoxHastings said: ↑ IF you CHOOSE to....or NOT if you choose NOT to Hey, ask those Catholic women how that old rhythm method works ....and if they're not too busy with their 12 kids they may answer you LOLOL """"So those who can't afford to risk a pregnancy, will choose to use contraceptives and/or abstain until their non-fertile phase""" Oh, "will" they ? LOL My, what a Pompous Pronouncement....like you are the Ruler, here are Your Royal Words and You shall be obeyed ......and since you aren't it must be hilariously frustrating for you OK, you don't have a point but post anyway... And uh, Catholic women couldn't use birth control...it was a sin.
FoxHastings said: ↑ Your twisted convoluted comment """bodily autonomy is not bodily responsibility. So who do you think should be responsible for women's bodies"" gets a trophy for Totally Illogical Conclusion.... UH YES it is my claim because they are two different phrases having nothing to do with each other..."bodily responsibility " is something YOU MADE UP. And since you seem to have no idea what bodily autonomy means you are trying to hide that fact and fumble on incoherently.. That is NOT a logical conclusion....because I know there's a difference between bodily autonomy and your "bodily responsibility" and YOU don't that says I don't believe women should be responsible? That is the most distorted , mangled interpretation I could imagine....stinks of desperation and TOTAL LACK OF ANY POINT. LOL, I love to see your desperation blatantly obvious by your making up things I allegedly believe.. Why do you think men should beat women?
Is "bodily autonomy" the right to not to get pregnant in the first place, or the right to make a new decision at any point even if the woman's past decisions are responsible for the situation she now finds herself in?
How about ask a woman who's childless at age 40 because she aborted all the children she would ever have? Why is it that these conservative Christian women, even though they are having more children, are still much more likely to adopt children than any other group?
It's a statement of fact .. like "it's raining". It's observation of a self-evident truth, it has nothing to do with me. If a woman (or any female mammal) does not want to risk a pregnancy, she won't risk a pregnancy. Ipso facto if she does risk a pregnancy, she cannot claim to have not wanted to. They're mutually exclusive positions. Your issue is not with that self-evident truth, but with your own position - which seeks to find a work around. There is no work around, so you have to wrestle with the cognitive dissonance resulting.