What caused 1/6?

Let me rephrase that:

From what wellspring of hellish rhetoric did the brutal acts of 1/6 draw their inspiration?

In my opinion:

On 1/6, the overall 'riot' was due, ultimately, to Trump's continuous incendiary acts, comments, mentions, speeches, on 1/6, and back covering over a period of many months, of which the predominant message was 'democrats stole the election' and that lie began before the first ballot was cast, inculcated in the minds and hearts of his follows long and hard, to such an extent, that it caused a welling up of what can rightfully be characterized as a juggernaut of rage, erupting in volcanic fashion on 1/6, resulting in several deaths and millions of worth of property damaged, some property stolen, and trespassing of the offices of congresspersons and senators and the terrorizing of persons thereby, and the delay of several hours of the constitutional proceedings.

Supporting my position:

In Trump v Thompson ( Chairman of the 1/6 committee) penning the ruling for MILLETT, WILKINS, and JACKSON, circuit judges, Circuit Judge Millet Wrote:

https://www.cadc.uscourts.gov/inter...590852587A60075CC4F/$file/21-5254-1926128.pdf

MILLETT, Circuit Judge: On January 6, 2021, a mob professing support for then-President Trump violently attacked the United States Capitol in an effort to prevent a Joint Session of Congress from certifying the electoral college votes designating Joseph R. Biden the 46th President of the United States. The rampage left multiple people dead, injured more than 140 people, and inflicted millions of dollars in damage to the Capitol. 1 Then-Vice President Pence, Senators, and Representatives were all forced to halt their constitutional duties and flee the House and Senate chambers for safety.

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...“the most serious attack on the operations of the Federal Government since the Civil War.”
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On November 3, 2020, Americans elected Joseph Biden as President, giving him 306 electoral college votes. Then President Trump, though, refused to concede, claiming that the election was “rigged” and characterized by “tremendous voter fraud and irregularities[.]”
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In anticipation of that event, President Trump had sent out a Tweet encouraging his followers to gather for a “big protest in D.C. on January 6th” and to “e there, will be wild!” Donald Trump (@realDonaldTrump), TWITTER (Dec. 19, 2020, 1:42 AM) (“Statistically impossible to have lost the 2020 Election.”).
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During his more than hour-long speech, President Trump reiterated his claims that the election was “rigged” and “stolen,” and urged then-Vice President Pence, who would preside over the certification, to “do the right thing” by rejecting various States’ electoral votes and refusing to certify the election in favor of Mr. Biden.
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Toward the end of the speech, President Trump announced to his supporters that “we’re going to walk down Pennsylvania Avenue * * * to the Capitol and * * * we’re going to try and give our Republicans * * * the kind of pride and boldness that they need to take back our country.” Id. at 4:42:00–4:42:32. Urging the crowd to “demand that Congress do the right thing and only count the electors who have been lawfully slated[,]” he warned that “you’ll never take back our country with weakness” [Trump] declared “[w]e fight like hell and if you don’t fight like hell, you’re not going to have a country anymore.”

Shortly after the speech, a large crowd of President Trump’s supporters—including some armed with weapons and wearing full tactical gear—marched to the Capitol and violently broke into the building to try and prevent Congress’s certification of the election results. See Capitol Attack Senate Report at 23, 27–29. The mob quickly overwhelmed law enforcement and scaled walls, smashed through barricades, and shattered windows to gain access to the interior of the Capitol. Id. at 24–25. Police officers were attacked with chemical agents, beaten with flag poles and frozen water bottles, and crushed between doors and throngs of rioters.

As rioters poured into the building, members of the House and Senate, as well as Vice President Pence, were hurriedly evacuated from the House and Senate chambers. Capitol Attack Senate Report at 25–26. Soon after, rioters breached the Senate chamber. Id. In the House chamber, Capitol Police officers “barricaded the door with furniture and drew their weapons to hold off rioters.” Id. at 26. Some members of the mob built a hangman’s gallows on the lawn of the Capitol, amid calls from the crowd to hang Vice President Pence.

Even with reinforcements from the D.C. National Guard, the D.C. Metropolitan Police Department, Virginia State Troopers, the Department of Homeland Security, and the FBI, Capitol Police were not able to regain control of the building and establish a security perimeter for hours. Capitol Attack Senate Report at 26. The Joint Session reconvened late that night. It was not until 3:42 a.m. on January 7th that Congress officially certified Joseph Biden as the winner of the 2020 presidential election. Id. The events of January 6, 2021 marked the most significant assault on the Capitol since the War of 1812.4 The building was desecrated, blood was shed, and several individuals lost their lives. See Capitol Attack Senate Report at 27–29. Approximately 140 law enforcement officers were injured, and one officer who had been attacked died the next day. Id. at 29. In the aftermath, workers labored to sweep up broken glass, wipe away blood, and clean feces off the walls. 5 Portions of the building’s historic architecture were damaged or destroyed, including “precious artwork” and “statues, murals, historic benches and original shutters[.]”

Now, I ask you, from what wellspring of hellish rhetoric do the acts of 1/6 draw their inspiration?

There is only one inescapable, incontrovertible, conclusion, and that is it comes from Donald Trump.

Therefore, Trump and his minions share at least 50% responsibility. But, since his flock were merely duped instruments of his grandiose ire, given the power of the presidency, I suggest 100%.

 

What caused 1/6?

Stuff like this:

 

Uhhh, no.

 

Delusional Trump supporters caused 1/6.

 

Idiots who bought into a grift - pure and simple...

 

Jan 6 was a nothingburger compared to the Seattle/Portland west coast insurrections of the previous almost two years. Give me a break! Oh wait, Nancy Pelosi's office got soiled I guess that makes it different.

 

What makes it different is January 6th was an assault on OUR Capitol instigated by the President of the United States (Donald Judas tRump), for the express purpose of stopping OUR Senators and Representatives from carrying out their duty to certify the lawful election of President of The United States in order for Donald Judas tRump to unlawfully retain power.

If his (Donald Judas tRump) coup attempt had been successful it would have changed OUR Government from By The People, to an autocratic kleptocracy.

There has never been a more grave and dangerous assault on OUR Government in it's history. <-period

 

Usually when government coups take place the military is involved and tanks roll in the streets. Not some looney guy in a Viking helmet strutting around the Capitol rotunda. Stop being so dramatic.

 

Describe precisely how that would have been successful.

 

I admit that Trumps words excited the crowd and led to the break in of the Capital. Trump should have known better. But to say he planned it or that it was a coup attempt is totally wrong. He didn't want a coup attempt, he wanted Congress to hold up the vote to make Biden President till an investigation was done to prove what he actually thought was voter fraud. He was fed a lot of information of voter misconduct. He was shown a video by the Pillow Guy that he paid thousands for, that supposedly showed voting machines being electronically broken into and votes changed. He wanted it all investigated.He had the highest number of votes than any President before him and still lost? He was sure voter fraud was the cause. So lets look at it as it really was and not what the bias news is trying to make it out to be.

 

You and the rest of tRumpublicans wish that was true. Benedict Donald's presidency was highly unusual from the moment he declared his candidacy until he got off AF1 in Florida. That the military wasn't involved isn't for lack of trying on tRump's part AND because we have a very loyal and patriotic General Staff. There isn't a way to overstate the seriousness of what tRump attempted; there was plenty of "drama" on January 6th if you care to watch.



January 6th, the most infamous of days that live in infamy.

 

Keep in mind that the military swore an oath to defend and protect the Constitution of the United States. No where in that oath does it mention the president.

Request you describe precisely how Trump was going to overthrow the government of the United States.

 

The only drama around here is you. lol

 

They know Trump wasn't trying to over throw the government. I said exactly what happened, but they won't admit it. They want to make the Capital break in a political coup when they knew it wasn't. Anything to make Trump look worse than it is.

 

At the end of the day, it was a 4 hour riot. But feel free to go all drama queen here. If your fake outrage was real, you would have been just as upset over the 576 riots allowed to continue over 8 months killing Americans and cops while destroying billions in American businesses because leftist Mayors in 28 cities REFUSED to allow law enforcement to stop it.

So please spare us your conjured up outrage.

 

Uh, yes.

 

Bias news? Have you read the multitudinous Volumes that ALL AGREE on the significant details of Benedict Donald's plan to subvert the election. He knew he was in trouble before the election, an started sewing the seeds of doubt that it wouldn't be a fair election LONG before November 3rd. He ramped it up on election night and saying "in fact we did win", when the election had already been called for Joseph Biden. He and many red States exhausted every legitimate challenge to the election available to him, and even some that lacked legitimacy. AND was NEVER able to prove that fraud of any substance occurred; the few isolated cases that made the news were perpetrated by tRumpublicans. He went through every department in the Federal Government trying to find allies in his quest to retain power. He, illegally, coerced election officials across America and got nowhere.

HE KNEW HE LOST. <-period But wouldn't give up on trying to scam his way to retain power.

Which climaxed on January 6th after calling his supporters to Washington to interfere with the election certification process. HIS goal was to cause so much turmoil that he could declare martial law and throw out the election. <-- That was the reason for causing January 6th, THAT was his (and his minions) PLAN.

So not for a minute was January 6th a plan to be heard, he'd already been heard in every court that would listen to his (and Rudy's) BULLSHIT. Fortunately for America and AmeriCANs he failed; BUT

January 6th, the most infamous of days that live in infamy.

And no amount of obfuscation by tRumpservatives will ever change that.

 

I don't see how, when the President of the United States becomes a traitor to the Nation he swore to protect and defend, he could look any worse.

 

I'll repeat what I said, prove me wrong

I admit that Trumps words excited the crowd and led to the break in of the Capital. Trump should have known better. But to say he planned it or that it was a coup attempt is totally wrong. He didn't want a coup attempt, he wanted Congress to hold up the vote to make Biden President till an investigation was done to prove what he actually thought was voter fraud. He was fed a lot of information of voter misconduct. He was shown a video by the Pillow Guy that he paid thousands for, that supposedly showed voting machines being electronically broken into and votes changed. He wanted it all investigated.He had the highest number of votes than any President before him and still lost? He was sure voter fraud was the cause. So lets look at it as it really was and not what the bias news is trying to make it out to be.

 

How many uploaders have been
at this or that "demonstration" ?


I was way back in Vietnam demonstrations.
And particularly Anti George Wallace . .
only to recognize I was being "played".

People show up for some political expression.
And at the front of the group a best cosmetic
sort appears & encourages the "group" onward.
Who pays them?
Investigation is missing the mark like not
following the money in a Watergate investigation.

Get It Or Not


Moi

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PROVE YOU RIGHT.

There are many, many books that tell a worse tale than I (for brevity) have presented here, try just once publishing links to facts, not just your opinion.

 

and their "inspiration" was their "dear leader"........D Trump......who is a malignancy to a democracy. Trump ,via his rhetoric made it "oK" for folks to behave outrageously, get more violent in their views........ and having bought into the Trump speak.............would do anything for him.......... even damage the democratic system. Freedom to behave in a destructive way was set by example by Trump.........

Civility no longer had any value .......while extremism and fanatical blind support of ONE pathological person became the imperative.

The question posed by the on this thread is requiring some in depth analysis of the society as it has been affected by one toxic person. As well as some self reflection on our won attitudes that have been shaped in reaction to this "social change".

Violent rhetoric from a leader sets an example and tone for the population..............

Trump was bent on tearing down norms, standards , democratic principles and fostering a lack of civility .and also creating chaos.

It i seems that many are disillusioned with true democracy and want something more authoritarian..........

Civilized nations don't riot in order to change the results of an election............. in what is supposed to be a democracy.

 

A political coup is a abrupt change in the leadership and political direction of the country, that is not a result of the lawful hereditary or democratic change.

Show me where Trump's actions compare to a coup. He did just like I said he did and that isn't a coup. Prove me wrong

 

Please describe precisely how Trump was going to overthrow the United States.

 

PROVE ... YOU ... Right! for a change. Where's your link, he did not do just like you said.

First of all he strong armed everyone that would listen trying to get them to change the results they were in charge of. That's not the action of a man that thought he had the votes to win IF he could only prove it. By January 6th he had already had his (many, many, many) day in court and lost EVERY TIME, even with the help of State Attorney Generals and other election officials. The votes weren't there and everyone around him, including, his daughter told him so. On November 9th, Hope Hicks, told him they just aren't there sir.

His only hope, was martial law, and an insurrection at the Capitol was his excuse. But he never had any support for that either.

Because his coup failed, doesn't mean he didn't try. The only reason tRump failed was there were just too damn many pesky patriots in the way.