Russia demands NATO guarantee that Ukraine will not be allowed to join alliance.

Russia demands Kosovo be returned to Serbia .. and the US discontinue its "do as we say - not as we do" foreign policy.

 

That's kind of silly given Putin is one of the most powerful people on the planet .. thus .any feelings of importance he might have are well founded as he is important !

Ahh Zoomie .. don't you worry one moment about persecution of the Russian Separatists by Facists Nazi loving groups in Ukraine - Vlad is coming to save the day ...

 

Do you think Vlad wants to join the Biden clownshow ? I suppose it makes sense that Biden might want a few more acts .. but his slate is already chock full of clowns .. not much room for a dancing bear

 

Yeah they did. That's odd considering that NATO parades around proclaiming itself as a 'defensive alliance'. I was watching one of the 1990s neocon idiots on TV yesterday talking about NATO being a defensive alliance, yet he was an advisor to President Clinton....who oversaw the destruction of Yugoslavia via NATO. Remind me again, who did Yugoslavia attack? Was it a NATO member? Oh, that's right, they didn't attack anybody.

How about a little EU is the new Soviet Union/Communism? Enjoy.

 

Well...not really silly....Mafialand is a regional player....has a few nukes go make them look "important"....and little Kremlin shrimp needs platform shoes to look ...huge. Short people feel like they're pi$$Ed upon....and the Mafia $hitnugget feels that way.

What persecution of "separatists " you talk about shifty....I asked you earlier , you gave no reply, since you can't.

No persecution of any kind shifty...since there's no access east of DMZ....and everywhere else is quiet and under control....shifty ...shifty...)....where oh where?

 

It is defensive....Milosevic shouldn't have gone on his ethnic cleansing tour back in the day?

 

How did you draw that conclusion?

On what do you base that conclusion?

Um, you abandoned Western War-Fighting and adopted Soviet-style War-Fighting because it was superior.

The last time the US engaged Chinese troops, US troops threw down their weapons and ran.

Obviously, you they don't have any children of draft age.

It's easy to talk big when they know none of their children will be drafted.

You mean the draftees.

And the draft dodgers. Lots of draft dodgers will be fleeing to Cancun (can't go to Canada since Canada is a NATO member.)

Artillery rounds, not missiles.

The Russians have 8"/203mm 1 kt neutron warheads just like the US used to have 30 years ago.

The Russians also have a 0.1-0.5 kt (not sure of the actual yield) neutron warhead fired from their 153mm tubes. The US also had a 6"/155mm RAP round, but Congress cancelled funding for the neutron version.

The 8" tubes fire singly, but the 6" tubes fire en masse, meaning the whole battery will fire a volley.

Unlike the US 8"/203mm which could only fire one round and then you destroy the gun, Russian 8"/203mm can fire multiple rounds, usually about 10-12 before you have to destroy the gun.

The Russians will save their short-range neutron warheads for certain tactical situations only.

The Russians will drop the gravity bomb neutron warheads like candy.

Which is a disaster.

Neutron and small yield tactical nukes don't generate an EMP field.

Note that the Russians can use neutron weapons all day long, because they'd be using them on their own soil.

The US would be unable to respond without violating its own nuclear weapons policy of no first use/tit-for-tat.

 

Don't let the Ukraine join, that would be World War 4. Give them massive military aid so that when the Russian invade they get caught in the quagmire and the public pressure brings Putin down.

 

The US Media -- on orders from the Clinton Administration -- never mentioned Kosovo-Metohija.

Why? Because then Americans might thing Serbia actually has a legitimate claim to Kosovo, or at least part of it.

The Autonomous Kosovo Region consists of two provinces: Metohija -- to the west, and Kosovo to the east.

The Serbs settled the region in the 600s-800s.

After the Battle of Kosovo Polje, the Ottoman Empire gained control of the eastern part of Kosovo.

But not immediately. The coalition forces of Serbs, Herzogovinians, Bosnians, Croatians, Romanians, and Greeks were defeated, but the Ottoman forces were decimated and had to withdraw.

The Ottomans came back about a century later (1400s) and took control. Albania was a Catholic country, and half the population converted to Islam. The Ottomans invited the Albanian Muslims to settle in the eastern region, and those people are the Kosovars.

http://www.balcanicaucaso.org/eng/R...on-with-a-little-help-from-old-friends-121806

The company of former US Secretary of State Madeleine Albright “Albright Capital Management LLC” has been shortlisted for the privatisation of PTK, Kosovo’s state-owned postal and telecom company.

http://www.marketplace.org/topics/world/wesley-clark-puts-name-behind-kosovo-coal-project

The Envidity Company owned by General Clark has filed its request to the government of the self-proclaimed republic for permission to extract coal from the deposits in the western part of Kosovo, the Serbian news service B-92 reported on June 26. Shall I continue?

Yeah, Democrats never let foreign policy decisions stand in the way of making profits.

Um, that's not how it works.

The US applies extreme political and economic pressure to coerce "invitations."

In exchange for whatever bone the US threw at the Poles.

Which everyone can see on radar.

 

There was no ethnic cleansing.

Had you bothered to read either the House Intelligence Committee or Senate Intelligence Committee investigations on the matter, you wouldn't look so foolish.

It is properly called Iran-Kosovo just like Iran-Contra, because the Clinton Administration illegally gave money to Pakistan to buy weapons from Iran and have them shipped to Albania where Osama bin-Laden's #2 lieutenant al-Zawahiri (killed in a drone attack a few years ago) was illegally smuggling the US-bought Iranian weapons from Albania into Bosnia and Kosovo.

It was all done under the watchful eye of the CIA and Iranian VEVAK to ensure no manpad SAMs were part of the weapons shipments.

It was orchestrated by Neo-Con Tony Lake (who was Obama's foreign policy advisor during the 2008 Election Campaign) and that is why the Senate shot down Lake's nomination as CIA Director.

Note that the US was working with al-Qaida as late as 1999.

Also, note that the Clinton Administration not only violated US public law, it violated the UN Security Council order of no arms shipments to the region.

 

People can't be bothered with the truth....they just rely on the fake news propaganda.

Milosevic was found innocent, twice, in court. Of course he had already been poisoned and killed by NATO so it didn't much matter.

 

"Can't be bothered with the truth"....

Yes....works both ways....you should try it sometime....might learn something.

 

Ohhh .. seems like someone has a stone in shoe - instead of TDS .. we have a case of VDS

Now don't be trying to cover up for crimes of the Nazi Facists on Putin's account .. but don't you worry .. Vlad going to set things right.

 

No covering up....

Just show all these war crimes you claim the "Facists " are perpetrating shifty....or is it a case of filled drawers on your part.)

 

I actually would rather Ukraine not join the alliance. They have quite the history of corruption. However I do think we should not allow Russia to influence or attack that country whatsoever

 

Come now Zoomie -- why you trying to cover up the war crimes of these Nazi loving Facsists ?

https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/odr/oleksandra-matviychuk-ukraine-needs-war-crime-legislation/

 

The US media, DISREGARDING ANY ORDERS FROM THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION
made a great deal of the 'I did not have sex with that woman' issue. Had Clinton 'ordered'
any such ban then it would be headlines in every paper.
Would any newspaper respect an order from Trump to not report something?

Clinton said he was 'damned if I do, and damned if I don't' regards involvement in the
Kosovo issue to save the lives of Muslims being massacred. Thatcher was right - not a single
'peace activist' took to the streets in defense of the Muslims - something the Arab world took
note of, BTW. Same activists will protest some Palestinian being killed because their hearts
bleed for the poor Muslims.

A pox on the lot of you.

 

Yeah...true....that corruption can be attributed in large part to the holdover from former SUs corrupt judiciary thst still influences to this day ....thats changing quickly...you just look at the Baltics after the collapse in 91....they moved quickly to dismantle everything from the Soviet past....judiciary,law enforcement,military, everything.....its a clean,fast break...now they're in the EU and Nato....much to the chagrin of Mafialand . Ukraine too...once they get rid of these negative influences will be members too.

 

Neville Chamberlain said something similar when he returned from Munich. Hitler then invaded Poland and started WWII in Europe.

 

I never liked the idea of the F-35, never liked multi-role planes at all. They always end up compromising every capability trying to be multi-functional, and end up as prohibitively expensive boondoggles.

 

True, but the new unmanned stealth bombers will be a big help.

Nope. Everything that I've said is true.

Wrong. If there is a nuclear war with Russia and/or China, our military will be firing nuclear weapons at Russia and/or China.

Bogus article. The F-35 remains an excellent stealth ground attack aircraft.

A fair request. We should see if he will agree to withdraw from Georgia and Ukraine in exchange for Kosovo being returned to Serbia.

No such Nazis. No such war crimes.

 

It was a civil war and there was ethnic cleansing on all sides. It is wrong to treat the Serbs like they were any sort of a bad guy here.

Clinton knew enough of international law to prevent Kosovo from being taken from Serbia.

They had to wait until he left office before they could get away with that.

 

Possibly because Russia has no right to demand where NATO troops are deployed.

I'm basing it on my knowledge of the unmanned stealth bombers that we are building to pummel Russia and China with.

Nonsense.

There is no need for any draft. We have an all volunteer military now.

If Russia uses nuclear weapons on EU territory, the US will be nuking them back big time.

Actually the F-35 is a great stealth ground attack plane.

It sucks at air-to-air, but there is a ready solution for that: don't use it for air-to-air.

If Russia uses nukes on their own soil, that won't be a problem for NATO, as NATO has no plans to occupy Russian soil.

I'm speaking only for myself, but some of us do think that.

I doubt that the Clinton Administration gave such orders though, as they never let Kosovo be taken from Serbia. That only happened after Clinton left office.

Actually Poland welcomed our troop presence with open arms.

Only when the F-35 is outfitted with special reflectors so it will show up on radar.

 

Poland felt threatened by Russian saber rattling and invited us in. So did Hungary, Bulgaria, Romania, etc. The Baltic States made some amazingly lucrative business deals with American corporations and felt they needed more security.

There is a sick crowd that hates America and will blame her for anything and everything they don't like. How sad.

 

Putin said that as a soverign nation, Russia can do whatever it wants within its own borders
(ie station 170,000 troops on the Ukriane border)
But what Ukraine does is Russian's business as well.
Who next, Poland?

I am glad there are many Russian apologists on the Internet - Putin, like Stalin, needs you