Russia demands NATO guarantee that Ukraine will not be allowed to join alliance.

Why would Russia or any other country pollute its own territory with neutron weapons?

 

You haven't lived until you awakened in a sleeping bag on the deck of an Artillery piece in the dead of winter in Germany. I know. And no one I know who has ever done, and I know many, ever considered it a "waste of time".

 

Poland begged us for troops. First they just wanted Patriot missiles. But as the area heated up, they wanted more. They even enticed us with $2 Billion to defray the costs of base facilities, housing, and all the rest.

Now we murdered Schemarke? LOL... ok... I can't compete with such incredible propaganda.

 

Oh, so you mean like the Cuban Missile Crisis? Funny how the U.S. loses its mind and damn near starts a nuclear war because the Soviet Union (let's just say Russia, because Russia was the backbone of the Soviet Union) puts non-nuclear missiles in Cuba. So now NATO AKA the U.S. wants Ukraine in NATO (to go along with the rest of the NATO welfare superpower nations such as Montenegro will their super duper trained troops) so the U.S. can put much more advanced missiles and nuclear capable missiles on the border with Russia.

This is the stupidity of America and the hypocrisy of America in a nutshell.

We have no ****ing business in Eastern Europe. NATO is useless, corrupt, and a threat to world peace. Ask Yugoslavia about the 'defensive' NATO. It's a waste of U.S. taxpayer's dollars. It WILL BE one of the reasons the U.S. fails.

For those of you stuck living your life in the '70s, early 80's....I pity you. The world has changed. The Soviet Union has been replaced with the EU and NATO. Russia isn't the threat, it's NATO's meddling, dumbass warmongers in DC, and China.

Ukraine is a shithole. Most of the people are good people...and most of the people are ethnic Russians. The politicians, not so good. They support Nazism and the U.S. funds it. It's shameful. And I wish some of you got off your arses and went to see the world for how it really is instead of taking the fake news as gospel.

 

Lol...how did the US " crowbar" their way in....those said former WP countries couldnt wait to get away from ghe Russkis....voted in their respective govts and ratified it.

If anyone "crow barred" their way in....it was the Russkis.

Wrong....dude.

 

Former SU puts "non nuclear" missiles in Cuba??........now that's funny....what were they putting there...firecrackers?


Ukraine is a shithole....and most are ethnic Russkis??........last I checked 80%+ were ethnic Ukrainian....what $hithouse wall you read this on...carsy?

 

Um, it's not gonna be in writing.

It's like when RFK pressured Walter Lippman not to run with the story about the Kennedy Missile Crisis.RFK didn't put it in a memo.

You might wanna check your calendar. I was in Kosovo while Clinton was bombing it in 1999.



That's what your Lame Stream Media says, because that's what your government wants you to believe.



Stealth technology makes aircraft difficult to detect, not impossible to detect.

The fact that tornadoes and clouds show up on radar should be your first clue, but then you don't understand the physics of radars.[/QUOTE]
Oh, I'm aware of the 1st Cav performance. When Nixon first went to China he attended a dinner in a huge hall with military banners on the walls. The 1st Cav Division colors (only US division colors ever captured) were hung over his seat. And there's an old saying in the Army about the 1st Cav unit crest as a result... "The horse they couldn't ride, the river they couldn't cross, and the yellow speaks for itself"... a reference to their Little Bighorn roots.



The manpower requirements of the military in 2021 are much lower than traditional requirements. Major improvements in weapons, networking and such have decreased manpower requirements. The next MAJOR war will probably be over before a draft could be geared up anyway. What's shaping up in the Ukraine and Taiwan are major conflicts. They will not be prolonged. Totally different than fighting goatherders. It will indeed be "high intensity"... i.e. relatively short duration.

I served in Iraq and saw National Guard units fighting alongside Regular Army units... they were both top notch. They had a very healthy comeraderie and a healthy competitiveness. Just like your old view of manpower, National Guard readiness has increased tremendously. I like to think I played some part in that since I spent a considerable part of my career establishing, organizing and training troops at the National Training Centers.

Who said anything about Russia using nukes? I didn't.

Where did you get that info that US and Britain intend to occupy "eastern Russian Republics"? Why were you privy to such obviously highly classified information?

I never mentioned radar. It was never "on my radar" much (little joke there). I knew there were Air Defense radars out there, but the only connection I ever had to that was the data received at a Stinger Team ... neat little box with mechanical squares that flipped over indicating the path of the incoming aircraft. On the other side of the coin, I was familiar withe the AN/ALQ-144 radar jammer... and the M8 Chaff Dispenser used to fool radars mounted on most Army aircraft.

 

Ok zoom, here's your chance. Provide links, video and proof to the contrary. Isn't that what you are always badgering @Jeannette about? You spread your Ukie version propaganda, uawire, but provide no backup all the time. Show us what you got. Prove the missiles were nuclear. Even if they were, prove that NATO won't put nuclear missiles in Ukie land.

 

The beauty of "neutron weapons" is that with a high altitude airburst, you get a "flashlight effect" of radiation. You get very little fallout. Fallout is made of irradiated "stuff". If the fireball doesn't touch the ground, there is very little "stuff" to make fallout. If the fireball touches the ground, it sucks up dirt, vegetation, vehicles, buildings, people, etc that are all irradiated and make fallout.

When you plan nuclear fires, you don't always aim at the target. In fact, you usually don't. Battlefield distances are in a strategic sense are measured in time, not distance. The best attack is to target rear areas and induce "latent lethality". Something like two weeks back. Latent lethality irradiates them so they will get sick in about two weeks. By that time they will be at FEBA (Forward Edge of the Batlle Area) and traditionally it takes two people to evacuate one. So you get three folks out of the battle rather than just one. You can do this closer to the FEBA ... its just a matter of planning. There are so many other things to consider like avoiding as many civilian casualties as possible, tree blowdown which would block advances, contaminating an area... which denies the area to the enemy... but also to YOU and lots more. Its a complex planning process.

 

Correction, you were in Yugoslavia...as part of an invasion by NATO led by the U.S. under the proven false pretense that Slobodan Milosevic was committing genocide.

What NATO did was a war crime.

Let's just get that right, shall we?

 

Uhmmm... Russia stationed NUKE missiles in Cuba. Russia was there before they brought in the nukes and we didn't bother them,

 

Bullshit. All hell broke loose once the U.S. got the U-2 spy photos and one was shot down. The U.S. didn't know if they were nuke-tipped or not. The Soviet Union said the missiles were defensive....does this ring a bell? Hello hello, Ukraine? Poland?

Do as I say, not as I do, right? Isn't this the ignorance and hypocrisy of US foreign policy?

 

LOL...

"Even if they were"....no real need to prove....you just did Carsy,thanks...lol.....many of those Ukie links also appear in Yahoo,Wapo,Reuters,,,etc...I don't see missiles in Ukraine...do you?

But Mafialand seems ready to put nukes in Belorussia.....
http://uawire.org/minsk-belarus-is-ready-to-deploy-russian-nuclear-weapons

Prove otherwise carsy....seems Botox chimps migrant gambit backfired....and Germany dragging their feet on allowing NS2 to get operational so the Kremlin $hitnugget is getting desperate....).

 

Russia can go pound sand.

 

That wasn't me that said that. I was never in Kosovo. You must have copied that answer from someone I was responding to.

Sorry. You use different missiles for different missions. The missiles Russia placed in Cuba were designed to carry nukes. To put conventional weapons in one of those missiles would be a terrible waste of resources... like delivering pizza in a Rolls Royce. The missile would cost dozens of times the amount of damage it could do with a conventional warhead. We had thousands of photos. We knew exactly what the missiles were and what they were for.

 

Looks like you know a thing or two about nuclear weapons. What do you think is up with the Iranian and North Korean nuclear programs? How dangerous do you think are they? Both to themselves and to the people surrounding them?

 

Iran and North Korea have been partners in nuclear weapon development since the late 1990's. Iran has been able to assist technically, not just with expertise, but by refining nuclear material to higher degree than the North Koreans could do for themselves. North Korea paid them back for that effort with modified SCUD rockets that could carry a larger payload than traditional models. It was a scandal at the time since the Navy which was tracking the ship carrying those rockets actually lost the ship. The "Phantom Ship" caused ripples all over the Pentagon. It was finally reacquired s it neared Iranian waters.

It is estimated that North Korea has about 60 nuclear weapons. I'd bet Iran has the same. But I have no idea how large the weapon yields are. I would guess they are relatively small. I don't believe North Korea would ever attack us. They are deterred by MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction). They have no desire to die. But North Korea needs cash. The thought that they might SELL nukes to terrorist groups is frightening. Iran is run by radical muslims that fit into this category.

The scenario that has really scared Pentagon planners goes like this: Sixty or so cargo ships and fishing boats flagged in various countries across the globe, enter US ports at or near the same time. (About 10,000 ocean going vessels are at sea globally at any given time.) At a designated moment they detonate nukes they carry below decks. BOOM... both coasts.

Meanwhile, the largest ship in the Iranian navy, the KHARG sits in mid Atlantic, supposedly there to provide resupply and safety to Iranian ships which have recently increased trade with Cuba. The KHARG is a multipurpose vessel (small navy... nit many ships... so most are multipurpose). One of its capabilities is as a helicopter tender. So it has big elevators to take helicopters below decks for repair, refueling, etc. ... like an aircraft carrier has.

So here's the KHARG sitting off New York. An elevator comes up to the deck with a TEL on it (TEL = Transporter/Erector/Launcher the launching platform for a SCUD rocket)... As the coasts blow up, the KHARG launches a SCUD over middle America, dowsing us with EMP. Our air defenses are all geared to stop INCOMING missiles, not a SCUD going UP... away from individual targets... smart guys these Iranians.

It must be noted that KHARG recently had a mysterious fire onboard and it sank. To me that smells like a Special Ops mission carried out successfully.

 

I didn't get the part where Iranians attack American shores. Was it wargaming fantasizing done by someone in Pentagon or was it intelligence on some real plan? Either way, how do you personally know about it?

 

Iran is run by radical islamists. That means they want to kill all non-believers (INFIDELS). The have sworn to destroy the USA, a nation of infidels. They call America "The Great Satan" (They call Israel the "Little Satan"). Killing infidels is how they get to PARADISE. We're a big infidel target.

 

Sennelager by any chance........anyway your post sounds like a verse from Kipling's ballad......which is a good thing by the way.....

I wonder when the chatsite warriors are anticipating the start of world war III? Hopefully not before Christmas?

 

Word has it that the Ukraine gets invaded in February and once the world gets preoccupied with that... Taiwan gets the ax from China.

 

Wait just a second! All this elaborate plan you described. Stage 1. Stage 2. Scuds going up in the air... Are you saying it's all based only on the fact that ayatollahs in Iran do not like western way of life?

 

Not at all. Its based on the fact the President of Iran publicly announced that Iran would destroy the USA... that Iran subsidizes terrorism globally.... that they supply terrorists with weapons and warfighting gear throughout the world... and mostly that we are INFIDELS!! NON-BELIEVERS!! It has nothing at all to do with any "way of life" issues. We aren't muslims... therefore we must die. I urge you read the Book of Sura from the Koran. It is filled with orders from Allah to kill non-believers... and muslims take the Koran... VERY SERIOUSLY.

 

Are you kidding me or what? Have you read in Koran about ships exploding nuclear devices near American shores and Scud missiles firing into the American heartland?

 

The book of Sura in the Koran tells muslims to kill non-believers. When it was written there wre just swords and spears available to do this. The weapons have changed as technology marches on but the message and mission remain unchanged. Muslims killing infidels has been going on over a thousand years. The tools they use have changed, but its the same war on infidels it has always been.