How Alarmed Should We Be?

Very alarmed.

Voters who think Trump won are the most enthusiastic to vote in 2022

(CNN)The Democrats only have a US Senate majority because they were able to win two Senate runoffs in Georgia in January. Those Democratic wins were made possible by lower turnout among Republican-leaning voters, who may have been deterred from voting after then-President Donald Trump falsely claimed that the November 2020 election was fraudulent and that the runoffs were "illegal and invalid."

But while believing Trump only lost because of fraud may have stopped people from turning out in early 2021, this belief looks to be correlated with a greater likelihood of voting in 2022.
We can already see Trump try to use this to his advantage down in Georgia. GOP Gov. Brian Kemp has a primary fight on his hands against David Perdue, the former senator who lost one of the runoffs earlier this year who has now been backed by Trump. The reason for the former President's support: He felt Kemp didn't do enough to overturn his loss in the state.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/10/politics/republicans-fraud-turnout-analysis/index.html

And that is why Trumpettes keep lying about the election.

 

I see you have taken Chomsky's recommendation to heart.

 

Is there a reason you're being vague? If you have something to say, say it.

 

Can you provide evidence? Most of the election fraud I've seen from the last general election has been from Trump supporters.

 

The evidence has been posted on this forum many times. No need to rehearse ut here.

 

IOW, no evidence. Thanks for playing.

 

Trump allies are helping Overstock founder Patrick Byrne run a group that pushes false election claims

A former Trump administration aide and a leader with a pro-Trump Christian group are helping Patrick Byrne, the multimillionaire Overstock founder and ex-CEO, run a nonprofit that has pushed false election conspiracy claims, according to a filing reviewed by CNBC.

The group, called the America Project, is led in part by Emily Newman, who served as an advisor in then-President Donald Trump’s administration, according to the document. The disclosure report was filed this month in Delaware, according to Florida’s division of corporations website. The America Project has a mailing address in Sarasota, Fla.

Rob Weaver, who has a leadership role with the Jericho March, a pro-Trump Christian coalition, is listed on the form as the group’s chief financial officer. Byrne has previously said he pumped $1 million into the group. The nonprofit organization isn’t legally required to disclose its donors.
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/20/tru...patrick-byrne-push-false-election-claims.html

Election disinformation continues to be spewed.

 

Yet another group I won't deal with. No great loss, never saw even one bargain on Overstock yet.

If they're saying things that are demonstrably false can''t somebody bring a class action suit for plain old fraud?

 

trump has a deep desire for titled nobility (melania's son's name "baron" and his alias as his own publicist "john baron." ) but rather than "the trump" isn't he called "the donald?" (his friends call him "god emperor" )

 

would you prefer "trumpism?"

 

no evidence has been posted here or anywhere else.

 

I've seen it. I have found that Progressives are profoundly ignorant of anything that causes them cognitive dissonance, so I am not surprised by your statement.

 

Why do you credit Trump with populism? The term your describing is populism it's already a word for it where you don't have to acknowledge Trump as some progenitor of it he wasn't.

 

i've followed many of the posted links. none prove anything and most are obvious fraud or people who do not know what they are looking at.

here is what a udge thinks of the best of this "evidence ..."

Sidney Powell And ‘Kraken’ Lawyers Must Pay More Than $175,000 To Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer And Others (forbes.com)

 

i am a "populist." here is a good example .....

Huey Long Official Website | Biography, Quotes, Photos, Speeches

HUEY LONG (1893-1935) was Louisiana's legendary populist Governor, U.S. Senator and favorite son. Poised to run for president on his “Share Our Wealth” platform,

trump is a demogogue, which is quite different. "maga" is about the opposite of "share the wealth"

if trumpism does have a philosophical foundation it is closer to hefner's "playboy philosophy" dosed with ayn rand and "west coast straussism"



West Coast Straussianism Explained | Luke Ford

 

Trump was a populist, by calling populism Trumpism you are crediting him with the existence of it. I don't care if you liked his brand of populism or not. That's what he is.

 

Shrug. Your opinion does not matter to me.

The left has displayed so much mendacity over the decades I don't pay any attentuon to them.

 

In 2024 it will be Trump vs Biden, if Trump can still run, which I doubt since he will be convicted of insurrection

I don't know who will replace Trump if he can't and I don't think it matters. It will be President Biden until 2028

Answer honestly. Should Trump run again and would you vote for him if he did?

 

Just cite the court that accepted the evidence. We can find it if you can cite it.

Or are you saying that all the courts in the USA are now in thrall to the Democratic Party?

You insult Hefner, Rand and Strauss

You can find all you need to know about Trump's "philosophy" in one book Mein Kampf, by A. Hitler. Substitute "Hispanics" for Jews.

(Thank you for the sidebar on Strauss, I'd never heard of him before.)

 

lololol i have read that strauss thing several times . i was hopng one of these "conservatives" would try to explain it.

 

so evidence is only evidence of the Court recognizes it?

How is it that police are even able to arrest anybody if the court has to recognize evidence for it to be evidence?

Your threshold for evidence is absurd and you did that on purpose.

 

If he ran against Biden, I would. It depends on who he is running against. I voted against him in 2016.

 

3 retired generals: The military must prepare now for a 2024 insurrection

As we approach the first anniversary of the deadly insurrection at the U.S. Capitol, we — all of us former senior military officials — are increasingly concerned about the aftermath of the 2024 presidential election and the potential for lethal chaos inside our military, which would put all Americans at severe risk.

In short: We are chilled to our bones at the thought of a coup succeeding next time.

One of our military’s strengths is that it draws from our diverse population. It is a collection of individuals, all with different beliefs and backgrounds. But without constant maintenance, the potential for a military breakdown mirroring societal or political breakdown is very real.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/12/17/eaton-taguba-anderson-generals-military/

There is a good reason to take this forewarning seriously that goes beyond the number of currently serving or retired members of the military and or police force who participated in the 1/6 riot. More than 1 in 10 of those charged in the attacks had a service record. A group of 124 retired military officials, under the name “Flag Officers 4 America,” released a letter echoing Donald Trump’s false attacks on the legitimacy of our elections.

It was a point made by one of the authors of the article during an interview I saw with him. My initial response to the warning was, nah, Trump will never get the backing of the military. Then the general said something that caught my attention. He said we all know people, either friends or family members, who have inexplicably become members of the Trump cult, what I call The Following. Otherwise intelligent, well adjusted, "normal" people who have fallen under the spell of Trumpery. Members of the military are no exception. If anything they are more prone to being attracted to an authoritarian figure.

He went on the site this.........The Oklahoma National Guard’s commanding general Wednesday defended his directive countermanding federal requirements that all U.S. military personnel be vaccinated against the coronavirus, telling troops in a private town hall event that he was following orders from the state’s Republican governor and meant no disrespect to his superiors at the Pentagon.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2021/11/17/vaccine-mandate-oklahoma-national-guard/

..........as an example of the potential for a breakdown in the chain of command. What happens if there is a fracturing inside the military as to who to support? What if troops and their commanders start picking sides? Pitting Trumpery against the Constitution. For those who think the scenario is far fetched, who among you thought the orange MAGA god could have convinced millions of your fellow Americans he won an election without evidence?

 

How is it you find Biden so bad when you tolerated Hillary?

 

When did I tolerate Hillary? I voted against her in 2016 also. I did not think either deserved my vote.