Cop Who Killed Ashli Babbitt Never Interviewed By Investigators, Now Back In Charge Of House Securit

Then why didn't he cooperate with the investigation filing the necessary reports with his statement as to what occurred? This is a police officer acting under color of law if he is going to use that then where is his report and cooperation with the investigation else why is he still a police officer.

 

lack of response noted.

 

I just kind of like being honest about history and not minimalizing **** for propaganda purposes. But you do you. And no one is defending killing people for protesting . . . well, except for the occasional right winger around here saying that we should run over protestors who block traffic. And the only totalitarian thugs on January 6ths were the Trump rioters. Don't like reality? Too bad.

 

It doesn't. Sorry. Not today. She didn't "crawl through a broken window. She was near a door, and there were Capitol PD in proximity to her. The Capitol police LT who shot at the crowd through closed doors murdered her. Simple as that. Is that what you are suggesting now constitutes acceptable ROE for police?

 

She was in the window. Watch the video. He didn't shoot through the door. Watch the video. He shot at her, and only her, not at the crowd. You'd know this if you had actually watched the video that you've pretended you've watched. He shot at almost a complete parallel to the door. Simple as that. Why can't you watch the video? It's easily available. If the **** you were making up were true, I'd agree with you. But it isn't true.

 

It was not a national security area nor a national security issue. And NO that alone does not justify lethal force.

 

The only person killed was a protestor, not a killer of unarmed citizens.

 

It was ABSOLUTELY a secured area.

 

She wasn't killed for protesting. And she wasn't the only one killed. And the shot was completely justified.

 

That was a dubious assertion made by the right wing rag. If the internal investigation didn't have enough info to come to their conclusion they would have asked for more.
Officials examined video footage posted on social media, statements from the officer involved and other officers and witnesses to the events, physical evidence from the scene of the shooting, and the results of an autopsy.

 

Yes, justified by totalitarian thugs, just as I said. The Nuremberg Laws justified a lot of the same things.

 

Cults are dangerous.

 

If that's what you need to make up in order to avoid a rational debate, sure. Keep pissing on a few million graves. I understand that's all some have left when they can't produce a real argument.

 

RP/conservative's have reflexively supported armed police. Many of them are grudgingly rethinking their position.

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Most of the divisions between ordinary Americans are carefully contrived and cultivated by our very corrupt bipartisan ruling political class.

 

So two things. The doors had glass in them. In the video, she hasn't "breeched" a window, she is near a door that has a glass light in it. And then she is shot. Nowhere in this country allows police to use deadly force in this way. Nowhere. She wasn't brandishing a weapon of any kind. The LT cannot pretend that he felt his life was in any danger. This was a murder. Straight up kind of thing the left burned cities down for because they believed that George Floyd had been murdered. It's ludicrous. I have watched the video, and the video doesn't demonstrate what you suggest that it does. More though, EVEN IF IT DID.. which it doesn't, the ROE for the capitol police wouldn't have allowed said LT to shoot her based on his perception of her actions. I don't understand for a minute why you accept that this officer was justified in murdering an unarmed woman. The lie is folks spreading this belief that somehow it was appropriate for this officer to shoot her. There is no justification for his actions. It shows a decided lack of composure, and you and I both agreed that in a much more stressful encounter that the female officer who mistook her side arm for her taser was at least manslaughter. And that was a convicted felon. This isn't a righteous shoot. you know it, I know it, the world knows it. But for some reason, democrats seem to believe that it's Kent State all over again, and their the national guard...

 

Where’s your rational debate?

 

So what? She was threatening to break into the area being secured.

 

Dude, can you seriously not even get a SINGLE thing right, even with video? The window she was standing in had the glass BROKEN OUT already. That's why the glass didn't shatter after the shot. But it sounds like you are learning a little bit at a time. At least it now seems like you are aware that he didn't just shoot blindly through a door at a crowd. Now you know he was aiming at a single person, and not through a closed door, but now you think the window was intact. It wasn't.

Everywhere in the country allows police to use deadly force this way. It damn sure would be legal for any civilian to use the same kind of deadly force in their home here in Texas. There is no justification for HER actions. HIS shooting was justified.

 

Have you read the forensic report? How do you know the bullet didn't go through the door first? You don't because the investigation has been put under seal and we have not been able to see the full report of this homicide.

 

Great point. Really......a game changer.

The U.S. Attorney’s Office for the District of Columbia’s Public Corruption and Civil Rights Section and the Civil Rights Division, with the Metropolitan Police Department’s Internal Affairs Division (IAD), conducted a thorough investigation of Ms. Babbitt’s shooting. Officials examined video footage posted on social media, statements from the officer involved and other officers and witnesses to the events, physical evidence from the scene of the shooting, and the results of an autopsy. Based on that investigation, officials determined that there is insufficient evidence to support a criminal prosecution. Officials from IAD informed a representative of Ms. Babbitt’s family today of this determination.

 

Perhaps, he was afraid the perps would get passed the police and harm the people the police were protecting.

 

The discussion we were having about justification for lethal force. Before people started seeing if maybe they could power their fake arguments by making a few million people spin in their graves. Feel free to join.

 

one of the cases you mentioned, not this case, can you show us a statement from one of the officers in those cases

the officers did not give statements in those cases, they lawyered up, that is the NORM for cops

 

How was the cop supposed to know she wasn't armed.

She was the person trying to squeeze through the partially open door.

 

Unlike you and @drluggit , I actually watched the video. She's standing in the window, partway through the frame, when she was hit in the shoulder. As curious as I am about your magic bullet scenarios, it's all bull ****.

drluggit's claim was that he shot randomly through the door at the crowd and just happened to hit her. The video proves that this isn't what happened. Just as it shows the police officers you guys keep talking about walking down the stairs when this happened. This is, by the way, after one of the rioters warned the officers that they'd get hurt if they stayed where the were and offered to make a path for them.