Florida could shield whites from ‘discomfort’ of racist past

What about the 17 other states that have death rates higher than Florida?
Florida has the highest retirement population in the US
its 3rd highest population
But ranked 18th in deaths per million
You should do a bit more homework before attacking Florida

 

https://citizenfreepress.com/breaki...orces-students-to-play-white-privilege-bingo/

This **** is absolutely what DeSantis is refusing to allow in his State. This is absolutely downstream of CRT. And it's just merely an example of the nonsense distracting our schools from actually teaching the important **** like math. science. arts...

 

high school students are not the same as 1st graders.... when I say they should be older.... that is what I mean, high school age

no one is saying we have to force a teacher to Condemn the Holocaust, but they should definitely not be defending it

 

To some degree, yes. I don't see how you could be a slaveholder any other way.

DeSantis wants to act as if all the "darkies" were just happy as larks. Singing spirituals and talking kindly marse into whipping them so they'd not forget to pick some cotton entirely

 

Nobody alive right now is a ****ing slave owner. And if we are actually keeping score of that, it's mostly "darkies" that are currently slave owners in this day and age.

So get over it. You come at whities like this and they are going to hate you and your ilk. There is no point in history where you can show me where a group of people were thankful you painted them a villain. And if that's the goal...good job. You've found a way to divide America.

 

Here is what the bill actually says:

https://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2022/148/BillText/Filed/HTML

You apparently believe instructional programming should be making individuals feel discomfort, guilt, anguish, or some other form of psychological distress on account of their race? Is that what I should understand from your OP?

 

AND the Republicans banned native Americans from owning slaves -
was that a 'racist' thing? Should we 'respect native American culture'?
Have you heard lecturers admitting this, or found it in popular books
about the 'colonialism' of the whites?

This Special Pleading is the Democrats today.

 

Lemme repeat it for you: You're floundering therefore trying to derail the thread by trying to change the topic.

It's pretty obvious.

 

Then PTA moms are real too.

 

False,

 

Could you source that DeSantis' goal is "to act as if all the "darkies" were just happy as larks. Singing spirituals and talking kindly marse into whipping them so they'd not forget to pick some cotton entirely?"

 

Me

 

Thank you NPR!

 

I do not believe in government censorship, but you apparently do. Making laws to shield people from inconvenient facts is off-the-charts shoflakery, so it makes sense pseudo-conservatives populists are all for it.

 

How do you feel about the government censoring child pornography?

The rest of the bill makes it clear that it's not "to shield people from inconvenient facts" but to prevent students from being bullied or blamed on account of their race. Do you think students should be bullied or blamed because of their race?

You're probably bright enough to imagine that a topic like, say, slavery, might be taught in a variety of ways: At least some of those could merely lay out the historical facts as we understand them, without singling out students of any particular race for belittlement or blame. Other ways night focus on the race of students in the class and assigning blame or victimhood to them based on their various races. Despite the sloppy reporting, this bill is about banning the latter, not the former. Sorry you got duped by the media.

 

Like I said I do not believe in government censorship, but you obviously do. BTW, this is not just about schools, but private companies as well, who now have to fear prosecution if they accidentally make someone feel discomfort. This practically defines the term "delicate snowflake". Why do you need the government baby-sit people like this?

 

Wrong. The board was approved by the school district. There is nothing so far that would violate the proposed state law.

Obviously, you have no idea about what CRT involves. Try starting here...

https://www.britannica.com/topic/critical-race-theory

Do I support CRT? No. Did I "teach" CRT? No. Did I discuss CRT with my high school students? No. Would I tell students CRT is correct if ordered to do so by the school district? No. What would I say? That the school board is requiring I tell you CRT is correct, although my personal views differ markedly. I'm sure students would get the message. Is there a history of laws crafted to discriminate against minorities? Of course.

Are there still laws that disadvantage blacks disproportionately? Yes. I've given examples in this thread. Are the laws crafted to disadvantage blacks because they're black? Often not. The existence of a law negatively impacting blacks is not prima facie evidence of discrimination.

Among other subjects, I taught mathematics and computer science (programming and applications). Yes, we need to do a better job on these, but we won't get quality instruction unless we raise the pay for STEM teachers. Even Fairfax County pay is too low.



But we also need to teach history. The ignorance evidenced in this thread is evidence we haven't done a good enough job in the past.

 

I know what CRT is and I've read the definition of it and how it is taught in law school and the fundamental principles of seeing things through the lens of race (a bullshit practice or theory in itself). Is ABSOLUTELY downwind of this bingo game which casts a lens on specific privileges' based around race, while missing the most glaring and obvious examples of privilege of which I mentioned in this thread and I'll mention again.

Physical features, beauty, being tall, being athletic, being female, being male, being black, being white, being smart, being motivated, having wealth, being poor, being gifted, not being gifted. ALL can be advantages. ALL can be used to excel the individual. ALL are missing from this ****ing stupid bingo game which clearly has an agenda and misses the mark of inherent privileges' and what we do with them.

The agenda you are willfully ignoring here makes talking with you about this subject extremely difficult. Because you both refuse to admit it, refuse to admit the very obvious connections of philosophy to that of CRT. You refuse to acknowledge the very obvious negative side effects of practicing this **** in schools.

All you can try and do or want to do is try to proclaim "this is not CRT". That's it. It's a diversion of a stance and a weak opinion at best.

Come back when you actually want to discuss this topic.

 

The bill does a lot more than that. You should read it.

https://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2022/148/BillText/Filed/PDF

 

I believe our children are strong & mature enough to handle learning about the racist legacy of their country. We aren't a nation of snowflakes.

 

We don't know how the game board is used. I might use the board to have students examine the validity of each square. Is being the child of someone in the military associated with privilege? I don't think so. (My father-in-law was a USAF Colonel. You could talk to my wife about the fun of moving every few years and losing all your friends.)

You don't get it because you don't want to get it--teachers are not teaching CRT which is grounded in Marxist ideas.

There are plenty of things wrong with public schools, but CRT isn't one of them.

The Senate bill is rank demagoguery. As I said, teachers should call DeSantis' bluff.

I forgot more about teaching American history than you'll ever know.

 

https://www.britannica.com/topic/critical-race-theory
"critical race theory (CRT), intellectual and social movement and loosely organized framework of legal analysis based on the premise that race is not a natural, biologically grounded feature of physically distinct subgroups of human beings but a socially constructed (culturally invented) category that is used to oppress and exploit people of colour."

The bingo card/exercise while IGNORING ACTUAL inherent privilge...is proclaiming that being WHITE is a privilege and thus NOT being white is a negative... which is the same as oppressing/keeping down. Not excelling.

If you taught in school. Quit. You clearly can't see reality through the bias glasses you are wearing.

This is ABSOLUTELY downstream of CRT. For all the reasons you've chosen not to address in that an exercise of inherent privilege in our society is not being listed and instead race and sex is.

You haven't got anything to say about that which is why your shallow distraction of "this isn't CRT" is nonsense. Which is why nobody here takes you seriously.

 

I have read it. I provided a link to it and quoted from the text in my first post in this thread.

 

Whataboutism Alert!

There are a lot of screwed up states. Why don't you deal with the comparison I made? Deaths are six times higher than BC and three times higher than Canada.



https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

BC has the highest retirement population per capita in Canada.

Suggest you do your homework before defending DeSantis.

 

I should be clear about my intention. There is no need to condemn systematic racism and set off people like those you run across on this forum.