Florida could shield whites from ‘discomfort’ of racist past

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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    if you want to hide the truth about the white supremacist roots of American slavery and Jim Crow, then you want to hide the truth from our children.
     
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    You don't need a ****ing racist bingo game to teach what happened in the past.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    no, but our children have the right to know about their nations' history, both good and bad.

    or should we not teach German kids about the Holocaust, and Russian kids about the Gulags?
     
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    The bill literally says:

    Someone lied to you when they told you that this bill would "hide the truth from our children". I'm sorry you fell for it.
     
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    You're trolling.
    Read the bill.

    https://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2022/148/BillText/Filed/PDF

    There's page after page of this stuff:

    The history and content of the Declaration of Independence, including national sovereignty, natural law, self-evident truth, equality of all persons, limited government, popular sovereignty, and inalienable rights of life, liberty, and property, and how they form the philosophical foundation of our government.

    The arguments in support of adopting our republican form of government, as they are embodied in the most important of the Federalist Papers.

    Flag education, including proper flag display and flag salute.

    The elements of civil government, including the primary functions of and interrelationships between the Federal Government, the state, and its counties, municipalities, school districts, and special districts.

    The history of the United States, including the period of discovery, early colonies, the War for Independence, the Civil War, the expansion of the United States to its present boundaries, the world wars, and the civil rights movement to the present. American history shall be viewed as factual, not as constructed, shall be viewed as knowable, teachable, and testable, and shall be defined as the creation of a new nation based largely on the universal principles stated in the Declaration of Independence.

    The history of the Holocaust (1933-1945), the systematic, planned annihilation of European Jews and other groups by Nazi Germany, a watershed event in the history of humanity, to be taught in a manner that leads to an investigation of human behavior, an understanding of the ramifications of prejudice, racism, and stereotyping, and an examination of what it means to be a responsible and respectful
    person, for the purposes of encouraging tolerance of diversity in a pluralistic society and for nurturing and protecting democratic values and institutions, including the policy, definition, and historical and current examples of anti-Semitism, as described in s. 1000.05(7), and the prevention of anti-Semitism. Each school district must annually certify and provide evidence to the department, in a manner prescribed by the department, that the requirements of this paragraph are met. The department shall prepare and offer standards and curriculum for the instruction required by this paragraph and may seek input from the Commissioner of Education’s Task Force on Holocaust Education or from any state or nationally recognized Holocaust educational organizations. The department may contract with any state or nationally recognized Holocaust educational organizations to develop training for instructional personnel and grade-appropriate classroom resources to support the developed curriculum.
    See above.

    DeSantis is ginning up a phony conflict about CRT to distract from his failed covid policies.
    Stop. You're breaking my heart. :puke: :puke: :puke:
     
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    You try and try...

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    You don't act like you read it.
     
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    Ok enough said. Thanks for agreeing with me.
     
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    So you say much ado about nothing and post me a snippet of the bill that declares that the holocausts has to be taught in manner that dives into why the Nazi's wanted to annihilate the Jews? Oh the ****ing horror? Wake me up when it wants to degrade all Germans in the present for the sins of the past like what CRT wants to shove down our throats with white Americans vs black Americans.
     
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    So racist slavery was good and genocide of the native Americans was good?

    Huh
     
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    There was neither racist slavery nor genocide of native Americans.
    There was conquest and colonization, that is a key.
    You guys are trying to fool people to divide them and gain more power.
    That is a problem

    The history of Europeans or Asians is a history of wars and enslavements, regardless of the race.
    Yes, sure at some point Europeans become more advanced then Africans so they did conquered them and use them as slaves.
    Race has nothing to do with it.
    Race division serves only one goal, to pit black against whites to get more power.
     
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    wow, just wow.

    the denial is strong here.
     
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    LOL! You literally can't stop trying to derail the thread!
     
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    They are also criminalizing speech about sexuality.


    Florida lawmakers advanced a bill that would allow parents to sue schools if staff speak to students about gender identity or sexuality
    https://news.yahoo.com/florida-lawmakers-advanced-bill-allow-144906581.html
    • A Florida House committee passed a bill designed to prevent the discussion of gender identity in schools.

    • The Parental Rights in Education bill says it protects a parent's "fundamental right to make decisions regarding the upbringing and control of their children."

    • Advocates for the LGBTQ slammed the bill and said it would be harmful to LGBTQ youth.
    Florida lawmakers earlier this week passed a bill designed to prevent the discussion of gender identity and sexuality in the classroom.
     
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    narrciccist playing the victim card sucks regardless if they white, black or Rich, and yes, people are getting tired of it
     
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    The legislation, which advocates call a "Don't Say Gay" bill, says parents can take legal action against a school district if Florida teachers speak about LGBTQ topics like identity and sexuality that do not fall under "age-appropriate or developmentally appropriate" guidelines for students.

    The bill says it protects a parent's "fundamental right to make decisions regarding the upbringing and control of their children."




    Wow, now they want you criminalize speech about gay people.
     
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    So slavery in the USA wasn't racist?

    We didn't slaughter tens of thousands of native Americans?

    Is this what MAGA believes?
     
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    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, they want to criminalize all speech they don't agree with politically, and no, it has nothing to so with parents rights unless they redefine a "parent" as white, straight republican person.
     
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    That's your way of responding? Who are you kidding?

    Covid death rate Florida - 2,960 per million
    Covid death rate BC - 480 per million

    6.17 times higher in Florida than in British Columbia.

    Florida deaths would be about 10,303 instead of 63,569 if Florida had just done as well as BC.
    You're running away.

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    They and other states have failed. I told you about British Columbia because they are quite urbanized and have achieved their success without closing their schools. Or locking people down.
    The economy in Florida will tip into recession if the federal government subsidies stop (to other states) and covid continues circulating.
    No, you don't understand. They're not teaching CRT.

    This is what the National School Board Association has to say:

    What is critical race theory?
    Critical race theory (CRT) is a framework of legal and academic topics that examine social, cultural, and legal issues related to race and racism. It is primarily used in university-level courses. CRT says that race is not biological but is a socially constructed idea. Originating in the 1970s, CRT was first used to help law students think critically about the impact of historical and present-day racism on the legal system. In the 1990s, some colleges of education also started incorporating CRT into their coursework to help aspiring school administrators and teachers better understand inequities in the context of education.

    CRT is not educational equity
    CRT and educational equity are not the same and shouldn’t be used interchangeably. The term “critical race theory” is being inaccurately used by some to encompass a wide range of topics, including educational equity, social-emotional learning (SEL), cultural awareness, and restorative justice practices. It also is being used to describe discussions of racism in classroom instruction. Working toward student achievement and excellent outcomes for all students is the essential work of school boards. Approaches to equity will be different in every district, but the goal is the same: excellent outcomes for all students.

    What is educational equity?
    Educational equity means that students have access to the resources they need at the right moment in their education, regardless of their race, gender, sexual orientation, disability, ethnicity, language, religion, or family background.

    https://www.nsba.org/ASBJ/2021/october/understanding-critical-race-theory
    I have no idea.
    Death threats against teachers aren't the issue.

    Teachers are doing their jobs. Stop hassling them. The good ones will move on to other school districts, maybe other states. Maybe they'll quit teaching. You'll be left with a further diminished teacher corps.
     
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    I don't think so. There are specific state policies that can be compared to policies of the provincial government in British Columbia.
    This isn't really impacting the course of the pandemic.
    The federal government in Canada made a deal with China to develop a covid vaccine. (Yeah, China. Canadians were real unhappy over that.) Canada lost several months in purchasing vaccines from Pfizer and Moderna which delayed their vaccination program. It's not just U.S. policies that mess things up.
     
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    There have been decades of screwed up policies.
     
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    Their degree of urbanization is virtually identical to ours.

    You don't know much about Canada, economics or covid.
     
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    Who says it isn't being taught properly now?
    Oh, the dishonest pandering. The rank demagoguery. The stupid bureaucratization of classroom instruction.

    Teachers should call DeSantis' bluff in the way I said.
    CRT is not being "taught" in schools. Stop hassling teachers.
     
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    You're pushing DeSantis' ginned up conflict designed to deflect attention from his failed covid policies.
     

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