Neil Young threatens to pull songs off Spotify over Joe Rogan: report

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  1. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    I prefer Black Water and China Grove :oldman:
     
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    Covid is a complex topic with different studies seemingly contradicting each other. Fauci doesn't have a great track record on getting his facts straight either. Certainly getting these facts wrong can be deadly dangerous. Curious if you can provide an example of what you would consider misinformation that Rogan is spreading?
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    Medical professionals base their opinions on the currently available evidence. Rogan goes with his gut and what he has heard (which is rarely reliable). There's nothing wrong with doing so, but given the size of his audience, he should be more responsible than you or I would be just chatting with our friends. Rogan has discouraged vaccination, promoted unproven treatments (like ivermectin) and has provided a platform for looney conspiracy theories. He can do better. He's done better about other topics.
     
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    One of my favorites was Dark Eyed Cajun Woman, a song about a man’s enchantment with a woman at first glance.
     
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    You do understand the difference between music and politics right? But sometimes they do converge. And Neil should have stopped a long time ago. His hissy over not wanting to share a stage on spotify is arrogance at its highest level. F Neil Young. Spotify doesn't need him around anyhow....
     
  6. Joe knows

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    Why anyone would want to listen to his music is beyond me. It’s horrible and why is it such a shocker I wouldn’t know who he is? The man’s music is like nails on a chalkboard
     
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    An oddly specific assessment for someone who was unaware of his existence until this morning.
     
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    And just a brief history lesson. Young's arrogance knows no bounds. He has always been the prima dona of the ball. He didn't get his way in Buffalo Springfield, he left. He didn't get his way in CSNY, he left. And now spotify who might be the only reason anyone remembers him in the first place these days didn't immediately drop Joe Rogan who makes Spotify tons more money that Young could, so he leaves. It's a pattern. I don't feel sorry for him at all. Good riddance.
     
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    Yeah I fear sometimes our medical professionals look too much to politics instead of science or take a stance and won't step off of it when the further evidence comes in. I believe this is Rogan's position you're referring to, "In fact, I said I believe they're safe and I encourage many people to take them. My parents were vaccinated. I just said I don't think if you're a young healthy person you need it."

    Apparently he had a mild case of Covid. It's looking like with the new strain, the vaccine isn't much use for containing the spread but it looks like it can lessen the symptoms. Probably not a great comment he's making but I'd prefer a scientific argument against his position as opposed to silencing his voice. The government kind of gives a mixed report on ivermectin suggesting it may or may not be beneficial for Covid treatment.

    Ivermectin | COVID-19 Treatment Guidelines (nih.gov)
     
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    Just another aging clueless hippie.
     
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    It’s the truth, I had no idea who he was. It’s specific because no music I have research of his as of today is worth two cents ands likely one of the largest waste of storage space I have ever seen in the digital world.
     
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    Can Neil please share with us what exactly Joe Rogan said that was a lie? No?
     
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    But you admit you didn't even know about him until today. So you have, at best, a few hours of knowledge of his music . . . and I think we can both agree that "hours" is extraordinarily generous . . . that would assume you did nothing over the past few hours but listen to his music. Let's be honest. Minutes. You have minutes of reviewing his minutes at best. That's more likely, but still extraordinarily generous. You are basing this on minutes (at most) of "research" . . . and still all you have is your subjective opinion. What's that supposed to even mean?
     
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    Could you pin point the misinformation that you say he spreads?
     
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    There are several articles about his COVID misinformation.
     
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    Totally...
    That statement reminds of something that I saw online one time:

    "I Don't Get Shakespeare, he never had a Podcast and he was never a Playable Character in a Video Game, so he must be irrelevant.
    Shakespeare? Who?"

    Yup, it takes all kinds.:bored:
     
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    One example: he tried claiming that there is no increase of myocarditis risk among those unvaccinated/infected vs those vaccinated. He was called out about this on-air by a guest with actual medical experience. Rogan tried to defend himself by reading an article about it . . . his own article said he was wrong. And he still tried dancing. He's normally a decent guy. He needs to learn better when it comes to covering this topic.
     
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    It’s not hard to search an artists greatest hits… if those are his greatest hits they’re not so great. I don’t need more than 10 min to determine that.
     
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    So you have nothing more than, say, 5 minutes (again, being generous) of purely subjective "analysis" in order to criticize him for his stand. Cool beans.
     
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    There are several articles claiming Trump Russia Collusion and CNN went on about the lie for 2 years. An article means dick. What exactly did Joe Rogan say that is a lie on CV-19? Is that too hard to articulate?
     
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    You don't have Google?
    Here--> https://www.google.com/
     
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    I'm not interested in your attempts to run away from the topic with the usual "buh buh russhuah" evasions. I already addressed the actual topic. feel free to join us. It takes a bit of intellectual honesty to do so, but that's all it takes. But I can see where that would be too tall an order for some.
     
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    So... by your own omission, he wasn't spreading misinformation as his guest corrected him on the particular topic based on the information he had at the time. And his defense was merely pointing to the article that pointed to a specific REAL study that had varying results as the guest stated. That's not spreading misinformation, that is having a dialog about conflicting sources of data. It's only misinformation if the data goes against what you believe in which is emphatically wrong.

    He also didn't say the guest was wrong, he just said he didn't think it was true and looked it up real time.



    Now, can you try and again pin point were Rogan actually spread misinformation?
     
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    He continued defending his misinformation after he was corrected. Which, yes, he had spread to begin with. And don't get me started on him hosting professional lunatic Alex Jones on his show to talk about the same sort of topic.
     
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    No. You came up with a dodge of a post saying "their are articles"... blah blah blah. You are running form the topic. You don't seem to share exactly what he said that was a lie about CV-19. Go ahead. Let's see what you got.
     

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