NFL says all teams must add minority offensive coach, expands Rooney Rule to include women

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  1. Steve N

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    Here’s something to think about, especially if this was any other industry and the colors were reversed.


     
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    I saw bits and pieces of that story. Didn’t he have a losing record? And are teams obligated to hire him?
     
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    The ratio "should" be whatever it naturally trends to when merit is the standard for who gets hired. That applies to NFL players, NFL coaches, and even Supreme Court Justices. Nobody should ever get bonus points based on the melanin level in their skin or the genitals in their pants.
     
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    Not to get off the subject but....
    Why do people STILL have a problem with this? Don't like the first amendment?
     
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    But they didn't and that's why the Miami coach is sueing the NFL. Sure they have a rule (wink, wink) where all they have to do is interview someone........with no intention of hiring them.......but, hey, they followed the rule.
     
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    So you've answered your own question? They should go play baseball.......oh wait, that's much harder to play.
     
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    He was the Heisman Trophy winner and first pick in the draft and actually isn't bad but Cleveland (for some reason) wants to now go with someone else (don't get me started on that jackwagon)
     
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    He is Wentz-esque - just an average QB

    There was so much debate that year between him Rosen, Darnold & Allen. I think we have a clear winner from that group
     
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    24-25 over 3 yrs.
    No, teams aren't obligated to hire him but...........he interviewed for the HC of the Giants and Bill Belichek texted him congratulations on getting the job before his interview but Bill B apologized that he texted the wrong Brian........Brian Daboll got the job so the interview was to only comform to the Rooney rule.
     
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    I don't think any NFL team should look vanilla.
     
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    They should when there is a one is shut out of the process simply because of the melanin of their skin.
     
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    Maybe, but it is a team sport and Buffalo has a good team around that kid. He is good.
     
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    When will the left demand the league to add more Asian and Hispanic players? If blm can demand corporations to hire blacks who are unfit for the position, why the silencing in the NFL and NBA?
     
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    First Amendment doesn’t apply when you’re on the job.
     
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    There are some players that yeah, i think they graduated because football, but there are plenty that graduate because they graduated. Idk if Tom would be a good coach. I do know of several former players I would want to coach on my team(Michael Irvin, Deion Sanders, Tony Romo but not Jason Witten, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, even Keyshawn Johnson, and Jon Kitna off hand). These are all people I’ve seen either talking about football, coaching at a different level, or just knowing their personality. On Tom, idk enough to say if he could be or not. There have not been a ton of QB’s that end up being head coaches in the NFL. The ones that have were not much more than backups when they were in the league.

    You’re right that they don’t always, but in this case, how could one know? The vast majority of football players happen to be black. At any level. You’d think the vast majority of coaches would reflect that(like say in the NHL, or society at large and in general) demographic. For some reason it doesn’t here but should considering coaches were players at one level or another. Like your statement about cornerbacks which is true, there are very few if any currently playing, but they used to say the same thing about QBs and black people. I think their is racism going towards white db’s in a sense(seen as slower(not necessarily wrong overall) with less fluidity(also not necessarily wrong). You’ll find there are always some that break the mold either way, which if understood properly, would probably keep it full meritocracy instead of generally. I will admit there are some guys who shouldn’t be starters anymore but are due to salary(looking at you Ezekiel Elliot). So there isn’t necessarily a meritocracy going on in a situation like that, but overall, the NFL is a meritocracy and you gotta be good to get on the field in the first place, in general. Out of thousands of college players that graduate every year, not very many make it to the NFL.

    I get where you’re coming from on the actor director thing, but I wouldn’t say 99% of directors used to be actors either, whereas 99% of coaches were players.
     
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    Number wise, idk. Idk the number for white guys either. I do know there have been several really good candidates passed over for white guys over the years for one reason or another, and some were just token interviews to say they complied with the Rooney rule(Bill Parcells to Dallas, Mike McCarthy to Dallas are two examples of the owner saying they want this guy but interview a minority just to comply with the rule and they are not seriously considered as they should be). In both of those examples, we knew who Jerry wanted before interviews began. There is reporting on the cowboys year round here in Dallas, as if the season was still underway. I mean come on, football is one of our unofficial religions here in Texas.

    The issue has always been that they just weren’t bothering to even interview minorities, so the Rooney rule was instituted. Since then, the number of minority coaches has gone up, but honestly, there is still a giant good old boys network with owners and gms.
     
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    Like the NHL, I’d expect the coaching pool to be made up of former players of the, of which the vast vast majority are not white in the case of the NFL. Like it’s not even close.
     
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    They will cut them no doubt. The world is littered with Baker Mayfields, but first and second rounders seem to be having about 8 ish year long careers. That’s of players from 1995-2007 so wouldn’t include players who currently play(which would necessarily include guys who are just starting out and we don’t know how long their careers could be). Overall, it looks like they are averaging about 5 years nowadays.

    https://mgoblog.com/diaries/round-and-longevity-another-look-nfl-career-length
     
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    Lol….I have a 1A right to insult (put your favorite oppressed group here) and the last thing you would ever care about is my 1A rights.
     
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    We’ve all seen high draft millionaires completely bomb; Marinovich, Leaf, Russel, Mandarich…who was that white linebacker who got bowled over by Earl Campbell? Bosworth.
     
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    Yes and no. In this case, the vast majority of players in this particular field do happen to be one particular color, so it would be…. Abnormal for the population at large in this field to also happen to be that particular color as well.
     
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    I think Bo Jackson was the one who ran over Boz
     
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    You might be right. Lots of folks ran him over and that’s why he was a bust.
     
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    Yup. Here is Bo:



    And Earl ran over a bunch of people. I’ll just put this one here:



    Well huh. That last one is him running over the Rams.
     
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    Would leading with your helmet, like Campbell did, be a penalty these days?
     

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