Election Fraud Deniers Will Have a Hard Time Shrugging Off This ‘Never-Before-Seen Surveillance Vide

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  1. ECA

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    2022 and a holes are still going on about voter fraud? Too funny
     
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    Excuse me? I'll go slow enough for you to understand.

    I spend 80% of my time here bashing democrats. I think their ideology is immoral and anti American. This is about winning elections for republicans! This is about taking power from Biden and the democrats. Calling me a lib just makes you sound dumb.

    There are 2 political parties that matter in this country. The objective for both is or should be to appeal to a plurality of the population. 51%. What people like you are doing is appealing to the 35% who love Trump. Not every district or state is conservative. Not every district and state loves Trump. Obsessing about an election that occurred a year and a half ago is not the way to win in November.

    Trump is not popular with over 50% of the voting public. That is a fact. Why would you put all your hope on him?
     
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    While I agree with this, the same could be said about Hillary, the popular vote...dismantling the electoral college...Russian collusion...yadda yadda yadda. But you won't say **** about any of those, (shocker) so why the **** should I care about your bias hot takes on voter fraud? Especially when you don't want to get behind things like voter ID laws which would help make voting more secure.

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    Look at the methodology of these posters. He calls me a lib when I have been one of the most forceful critics of the democrat party on these boards. Pushing people away is not good politics.

    Same thing with Joe Manchin. If I was him I would have left the dems by now after what he has gone through.
     
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    Here we go folks. How am I not in favor of voter ID? Show me the post.

    So one Trumpette said I care nothing about the border and another says I'm against voter ID. :bonk: You are helping the dems!
     
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    This may come as a shock to the system but people had it better under Trump in general and the world was a much more stable environment. They may have voter regret and go back to him and his policies to help right the ship Biden has almost capsized.

    I'd prefer DeSantis but ANYTHING is better then democratic policies. Democratic policies are the problem. It's not Biden. He's just a puppet. It's the ****ing DNC. If you vote in the DNC they push far far left progressive policies that are disastrous. I see a huge push back/snap back as a result of people seeing the fruition of DNC policies and they may have to recalibrate as a result.

    Voting in Trump is the biggest middle finger you could point at the DNC. It's more of a statement of discontent then anything else.

    That's the hope. Or we keep sailing on this sinking ship pretending that "soon it will be fine, you'll see!"
     
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    Do you think mail in voting is fundamentally a great look for voter trust or do you think it's a bad look? EVEN THOUGH NO FRAUD WAS FOUND...do you think people are going to trust wide spread mail in voting over going in and physically handing in your vote?

    Especially when you see **** like this happen in the middle of the night?

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    While investigations proved nothing actually went wrong, do you think people looking at **** like this are ever going to trust mail in voting? Or the results in general? That there will always be skepticism regarding the subject?
     
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    Trump filed his law suits. We had recounts in 3 states. Nothing has changed. Here is a Harris-Hill poll from June that shows that 56% of republicans believe Biden won. 56% of republicans!

    https://thehill.com/hilltv/what-ame...-gop-voters-said-biden-won-the-2020-election/

    So what political benefit is there from beating this dead horse? This idiot attitude is why the democrats control the senate. Perdue beat Ossoff in the November election. Did you know that? He did not get 50% so there was run off and enough Trump supporters stayed home for Ossoff and Warnock to win 2 months later. Thanks!
     
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    You need to get over all that. Nobody cares. The optics of the past election look horrible and divisive. I just ****ing said twice (because I knew once wouldn't be enough and twice apparently isn't either) That there was no fraud in the 2020 election. I'm telling you that OPTICALLY it looked BAD. That mail in voting inherently seems rather less secure and more easily duped than physically going to a polling station.

    That changing the way we vote so drastically and then getting weird results by people counting the votes who are wearing ****ing Biden apparel is going to put people off from ever trusting anything to do with the 2020 election. That's the reality.
     
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    Who are you talking to? Do you read anything I say? I voted a straight republican ticket in 2020. I'm not a Biden supporter!!!!

    Anybody who is literate knows I hate the democrats that is why I want them to lose!!

    Anybody with any analytical ability at all can see that half of this country hates Donald Trump. And that was before Jan 6th! Trump is not a productive force for the republican party. He motivates the opposition and he is not liked at all by independents and moderates.
     
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    Keep lecturing me as if I'm a Biden apologist and I will just put you on ignore.

    Again for the 500th time. I want the democrats to lose!!!!!!!
     
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    Trump isn't going to change the 2024 results. The democrats are losing the Latino vote. They are losing voters hand over fist because their policies suck ass. People know that the republican party is Trump right now and they don't care. They don't care because they are reminded every day when they go shopping that things suck right now and the "it's Putin's fault" isn't working.

    I think you could put anyone on the republican ticket at this point and they will win. It's that ****ing bad.
     
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    What optics? That Trump was so damn unpopular he lost to a vegetable? That he lost the independent vote 54-26. To moderates 64-34? That was before Jan 6th!.

    Look at Virginia. He lost that state by 10 points and then Youngkin and Sears won months later.

    https://ropercenter.cornell.edu/how-groups-voted-2020
     
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    Trump is not as popular as republicans in general. Open your eyes. There are people who do not like Biden at all but still voted for him because they dislike Trump more.

    Your attitude will help the democrats in November.
     
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    It only looked bad because of all the a holes running around falsely claiming there was rampant voter fraud
     
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    I love how Trump supporters ignore the political impact of Jan 6th. Like that has no negative impact on him.

    Herschel Walker is a moron with no political experience at all. He has a devastating history of abusing women and has actually been diagnosed with multiple personality disorder. So Trump endorses him for the Georgia senate. WTF?

    Walker does not even want to debate fellow republicans because he knows he has no clue. But he loves Trump and reads the bible!

    This is what I'm talking about. Walker is a guarantee the dems hold that senate seat another 6 years.
     
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    Yep ignore that Trump did worse in 2020 then republicans overall. Send out the message loud and clear that no centrists or moderates are wanted in the republican party. Let the narcissist Trump decide who republicans will run in November. a recipe for disaster!!!
     
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    Notice the intellectual vacancy of the arguments. The election was stolen so results don't matter! So ignore how horribly Trump did with independents and moderates. The result does not count!

    So why didn't the democrats use their voodoo to help get Terry McAuliffe elected? A year later Youngkin got 50.6% of the vote in a state that Trump only got 44%. Trump is less popular than any garden variety republican!
     
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    Isn't Glen Youngkin the blue print for future republican candidates in November and 2024?

    A reasonable conservative and businessman who does not say outrageous or insulting things. Well educated and qualified. Able to communicate clearly. Did not insult Trump or those never Trumpers.

    Youngkin and Sears were the first republicans to win statewide elections in Virginia since 2009.
     
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    Again. Youngkin didn't win Virginia because he's moderate and polite. He won because the democratic idiot McAuliffe claimed parents should take a back seat to schools in raising their children. THAT'S why he won. This may come as a shock to you, but democratic policies have gotten so incredibly divisive and are proving to be so incredibly bad both socially and economically that you could put anyone on the ballot who's sane enough to understand simple concepts like parents not wanting their children to be taught stupid **** like CRT or sexuality at young ages and they are going to win.

    There is a huge snap back to center coming for the democrats which is great because it's sorely needed.

    If democrats don't find a way to dig up a centrist/moderate who's brave enough to clap back on the more ridiculous "woke" policies brought on by the DNC, they are ****ed.
     
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    If you ask anyone who the republican party is, they will answer Donald Trump. That's the reality we live in. That label was given by the democrats as a means to vilify anyone conservative and label them "racist". As such, if Latino's are now moving to the right of the isle...they do so knowing full well that membership right now comes with a MAGA hat.

    They just don't care.

    Now I would just assume to be done and over with all the Trump **** but it looks like he's going to run again in 2024, and DeSantis won't run against him. And I would say that by 2024, people will have had enough of their fill of the results of voting in a democrat with democratic policies because those policies are ****ing insane.
     
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    That video doesn't prove anything other than some people are easily fooled.
     
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    Ya know what, I think you should really run with this thing!
    Wake the neighbors, call the police, run up and down your street with a big sign that says: "I have found irrefutable proof that the 2020 election was cheated and Donald Trump was cheated!"
    Tell all your friends (yes, both of them), call everyone in your family, post on every social media site you can get your hands on, make sure you travel to Mar-A-Lago and tell Trump you've found the hidden treasure of voter fraud he so desires!
    And when they haul you away in a straight jacket and put you in rubber safe room, you can babble to yourself and spount incessantly about 2020 voter fraud to the nurses and care givers as they bring your lunch and change your diapers.

    I believe in anyone being able to have an opinion on most subjects. I think we should always be vigilant to seek the truth.
    But some things eventually fall into the "stupid" range, where someone just blindly believes something because it fits the narrative they want or follows their preconceived notions.
    You are being fooled.
    Think about this: I have an idea that will, guaranteed, make you rich and famous. It 100% works, and I know what it is RIGHT NOW! And I'll tell you what it is...................next year. And then, you'll only have to pay 4 easy payments of $19.95. Of course we won't use you credit card information for evil purposes!
    Do you believe me?
     
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    So what is your point? A sensible republican can just let the democrats' extremist anti American views win for them?

    Again I'm tired of your [​IMG] hole attempts to lecture me as if I was a democrat apologist. I want democrats to lose!!!! Can that sink in?

    You just made my case for me. You said ANYONE can beat the democrats so what do we need Trump for when Trump is not liked by half of Americans?
     
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    People are still desperate enough to swallow this bull ****?
     
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