World War III, the inevitable, the horrific

The problem is that there is no end to that sort of moralizing foreign policy. Should we invade China to free Tibet? Should we invade Saudi Arabia to give women equal rights? I mean, you would end up invading every country in the world if you base your view of foreign policy as some morality play.

 

I am not real familiar with the Tibet scenario but the central question should be, "were war crimes committed to achieve an end". And so your example about Saudi Arabia is clearly not eligible for recriminations. In general, I am certainly not advocating for the US's interference in the internal affairs of any foreign nation!

 

So you are pro American intervention any time "war crimes" are alleged?

So you would have supported the invasion of Syria?

 

I don't disagree with you but there are a few things to explore

its an interesting concept but who defines what the "moral highground" is and to what extent do you go to prevail. Putin and the Oligarchs "prevailed" over the west through the use of corporate lawyers, very clever accountants and promoting politicians to the boards of their companies. They perfected the art of information delivery and dissemination in order to make the western elite accept their trillions without being too picky about its provenance.....

In terms of crime what do you mean...I mean he's the ruler of the country so how can it be criminal when its all "legitimate" - Gazprom built him a multi-billon dollar mansion and estate on the Black Sea patrolled by FSB officers...he has the "loan" of a number of mega-yachts from Oligarchs and Corporates, he has business managers on VTB, Alfa-Bank, ABH Holdings, Gazprom...did you know that Gazprom has 1,637 subsidiaries - then there are the likes of Gennady Timchenko, Arkady Rotenberg, Boris Rotenberg, Yuri Kovalchuk, Mikhail Fridman to name but a fraction have been salting and sifting his billions for years - Bank Rossiya is almost his personal bank and a very obscure company called Konniy Park Limited Liability Company hides all the property round the world. I really don't think the elites would want to much investigation into Putin and his buddies activities...

....difficult concepts to grapple with but noble sentiments...

 

Pretty much, if the allegations have high degree of believability. But I stop short of direct intervention when we are clearly not an immediate party. But, like what Biden is doing, I advocate strong and meaningful support of the little guy against the criminal mugger.

I don't think so. I wasn't aware that such a move was ever under serious consideration (in Washington D.C.).

 

Well for starters, I've heard of a little something called the Geneva Accords.

I thought I made clear that I was referring to war crimes and not controversial internal goings-on.

 

While you are debating whether or not there will be a third world war, the Human Rights Council condemns Israel because a Palestinian fell to the floor & hit himself.
Now you will understand how this crooked world works.

 

What makes you figure that?

 

Sure, thank you, it is rife with crookedness, no doubt. But on that specific wrinkle, do you have a citation/link which I can see?

 

I realize that A-bombs are intended for detonation well aloft, so a ground-located bomb would be messy indeed. But still, what I outlined seems like an obvious ploy, perhaps some kind of absolute or doomsday deterrent? N'est ce pas?

 

~ And John F. Kerry - USA is worried about the impact another world war will have on climate change ... ?

 

So if Washington decides to go to war, you're on board.

 

If WW3 happened the nukes would fly and the world would be over. It would be the end of most things. Those that somehow managed to survive would form their own tribes, governments and the battle to simply survive in a nuclear holocaust would be devastating.

 

But at least we would have gotten Putin.

 

No, I don't think so. It'll be more like every man for himself.

 

That's a ridiculous oversimplification.

 

No.

 

At the start it would be, but we would eventually form tribes...towns...government. It would all start over, except now the land is all toxic and uninhabitable for thousands of years.

 

Uh huh..

After WW2 we decided to knit the world back together with trade. It did not take long to realise that was not enough. While we have committed many sins, we also work to promote democracy and economic growth in other countries.

If you don't have an interest in foreign affairs, you wouldn't have a clue.

I've had an interest in foreign affairs since the Sixties, and am currently reading Lessons from the Edge by Marie Yovanovitch

https://www.amazon.com/Lessons-Edge...1649956901&sprefix=lessons+from,aps,98&sr=8-1

It's quite good, esp. the chapter on Russia.

 

~ And Covid-19 would be over ...

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Actually, Hindenburg appointed Hitler Chancellor.

 

Von Hindenburg was President until his death. Von Hindenburg did try a compromise but even the Nazi Party rejected that idea because Von Hindenburg would still have enough votes to counter any Hitler move on power.

 

Hindenburg was never Chancellor; he was President.

 

But that isn't the way it works. USA can not and would not assert militarily without the coordinated military assertions of its many allies! Yes, I suppose I would, reluctantly, be "on board" with such a concerted military assertion.

 

Who cares about world war 3 when we have way more important issues to worry about like teaching pre-school children about CRT and LGBT practices