Notes on Florida math textbooks reveal why some were sent back to publishers

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  1. ShadowX

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    I suggest you look up “Affinity Housing”
     
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    Oh riiight, LOL. Ad hominem noted.
    There is no harmless reason to be using political charged topics to demonstrate / teach statistical concepts. Maybe you need to sharpen your critical thinking skills.
     
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    stop playing games, you literally quoted my links showing liberals fighting for segregation saying "whatever helps you sleep at night"

    I know its hard dealing with liberals double standards and hypocrisy but pretending that hypocrisy isnt there is not a good debate strategy
     
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    So prevalent that the person you're talking to (that would be me) who grew up in the south in the 70s, doesn't remember ever having seen even a single example of it. The public pool we went to (which sadly no longer exists) was not "whites only", I NEVER saw a "white's only" water fountain, nothing. A few of them may have illegally survived for a bit after the civil rights act (maybe, I have no evidence of that), but it was by no means "very prevalent".

    Oh, and you mentioned redlining? Where's your evidence of that being "very prevalent" after it, too, was declared illegal?

    You just throw this stuff out there as if it's the truth and hope nobody calls you out on it. Well, I'm calling you out, and others should be too, because you're full of it. Not to mention, even if you were right (and you're not) the 70s was 40+ years ago, to my chagrin.
     
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    The truth hurts, eh?
     
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    I saw a question in one of the textbooks.

    If 3 white oppressors can manage the 48 black slaves whose descendants' lives were ruined because of this. How many of the white oppressors, who could be the ancestors of some of your classmates, would be needed to manage 80 slaves.

    Critical race theory for ya.
     
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    And why is that? You have issues with the values this country was founded on? You think the Constitution was stupid? You have a problem with representative democracy? What is your beef here?
     
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    Well for one the 1619 project teaches the revolutionary war was fought in defense of slavery.
     
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    You mean the housing where the students CHOOSE where THEY want to live ?
     
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    Thats made up in the right wing mind.

    Teaching our children our history, ALL OF IT, is one of the most important things we as a country can do to remain a leader in the world.

    Do you have a problem teaching about Hitler ? I mean it could make those children of German descent feel guilty right ?
     
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    no, you showed more right wing BS.
     
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    https://www.jstor.org/stable/2577323

    this is one of many studies that showed that segregation did not only exist, but grew in the 70's

    FTR, I traveled a lot with my father in the 70's as he was an OTRT and west of the Mississippi were his routes. It was a very open practice. I know, I saw it first hand
     
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    As long as your fine with dorms opening up White Affinity Dorms for white people I’m all for it. I don’t have a problem with segregation. I just think it’s hilarious they’re doing it to themselves.
     
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    Nothing I stated was made up. That’s the point of CRT. I don’t have a problem with teaching history. I do have a problem with teaching history through a lens of “systemic racism”.

    I’m curious if you’re really okay with teaching children history. Are you okay with having impressionable black children, as young as 5th and 6th grade, taught that the first legal slaveowner and the man who introduced legal slavery to America was a black man? Are you okay with telling a group of black children that some of the most prolific slavers in US history were black and insinuating that some of those black children may even be descendants of those slavers?
     
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    Its not "segregation" when its self determined and by choice.
     
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    https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/05/american-colleges-segregated-housing-graduation-ceremonies/

    “The first neo-segregated residence our research identified was the “Malcolm X House” at Wesleyan University. It was founded in 1969 after black students broke into and occupied Fisk Hall. Wesleyan also has five other racially segregated residences: Women of Color House, La Casa Cultural House, Asian/Asian-American House, South Asian House, and Ubuntu, a residence for students of African descent. Black students at Brown University have the Harambee House, and Latino students the Latinx House. Brown recently announced an Asian/Asian-American House will open in the fall. Other segregated residences in our study include MIT’s “Chocolate City,” Columbia’s “Pan African House,” Cornell’s “Ujamaa,” and Oberlin College’s “Asia House.”“

    Please don’t piss down my back and tell me it’s raining.
     
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    “We also surveyed segregated orientation programs, finding 80 colleges that host them. In “Neo-Segregation at Yale,” Peter Wood and I discuss Yale University’s Cultural Connections, a five-day orientation for “non-white” students that introduces them to “cultural resources” — a euphemism Yale uses to describe its segregated system of racially exclusive cultural centers (African American Cultural Center; La Casa Cultural Center), peer mentors, and “ethnic deans.”



    Segregated graduation ceremonies represent the penultimate form of neo-segregation, the last stage before minority students join segregated alumni groups of which they will remain members for the rest of their lives. In May 2017, I attended Brown University’s Onyx Rites of Passage Ceremony, also known as the “Blackalaureate.” A hundred twenty-five colleges in our survey have segregated graduation ceremonies (72 percent of the total). Examples include Columbia University’s “Raza Graduation Ceremony” and “Black Graduation.””
     
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    But let ONE white group do this and they’re IMMEDIATELY decried as neo-nazi white supremacists.
     
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    seg·re·ga·tion
    /ˌseɡrəˈɡāSH(ə)n/
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    noun
      • the enforced separation of different racial groups in a country, community, or establishment.
        "an official policy of racial segregation

    Its not segregation in the context you are forming it in. When people CHOOSE to live where they want, thats CHOICE, segregation in the context of your post is separation by rule
     
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    I was talking about the 1776 Project, which actually seems pro-America. To whatever extent the 1619 Project thesis speaks the truth, if at all, it's got nothing to do with the USA, which, as you know, wouldn't exist in its current form until 170 years later. Sometimes we (not speaking of you, I think we're on the same team here) get our wires crossed and don't think about how long that actually is, because both events were so long ago, but 1619 is as far removed from the formation of the US as the formation of the US is from after WWII.
     
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    So just to be clear. If a dormitory opened at a college in which white students could not get a room because they were not a person of color. Does that make it segregation?
     
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    The reason defines the outcome
     
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    I read that a few times. Still having difficulty understanding. Would you mind expounding on that a bit?
     
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    Only because it would otherwise be illegal. But it amazes me that MLK and so many others fought so hard for de-segregation in the 1960s, but apparently 2020's blacks want it back. Black dorms, black graduations, black neighborhoods (by choice), black this, black that.

    College is, now that I've taken a moment to think about it, a great place for people to not have the option to segregate themselves, because it will just set the stage for a lifetime of racial tribalism, which is something we need a whole lot LESS of, not more. Encouraging and enabling any sort of segregation is not what colleges should be doing.
     
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    No. In fact, though I was born to US Citizen parents, and because of that I was born a US citizen, it happened on German soil. I do not feel any guilt for the acts of a madman that happened decades before my birth, nor should any German. But they're not being told to feel bad, and nobody is calling for present day reparations, or speaking of "German privilege" or any of the other crap you folks like to spew about white folks.

    I've literally been called a "white supremacist" based on the fact that I am white and liked Trump's tax cuts, which unless I've missed something, applied as much to blacks as they did to me. "If you don't vote for me, you ain't black." Memba that?

    I do.

    Those are contemporary words right out of the standard bear of today's democratic party. I have a tendency to forgive crap that happened 50 years ago, like that Dem Senator who was some grand wizard in the Klan way back in the day. The world was a different place back then, and people were raised differently, and interacted with their world, as it existed back then, differently than we do today.

    But he didn't say that 50 years ago.
     
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