Joe Biden: "When it comes to the gas prices, we're going through an INCREDIBLE transition"

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  1. WalterSobchak

    WalterSobchak Well-Known Member

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    He got his ass whooped worse than Hillary. LOL
     
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    WalterSobchak Well-Known Member

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    LOL, you must also believe Qanon too.
     
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    No effect at all. If you can prove that they did, have at it.
    Again, no effect. No company was interested in drilling there. It was shut down because no one wanted the leases.
    Again, did nothing tol effect gas prices. You think so...prove it.
    So what. Most is done on state and private lands
    Yep, and even if he didn't, it would have taken YEARS to have any benifit. Not relevant to today's problem.
    I have no idea what this is about.
     
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    Ok, you have a point on that one
     
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    WalterSobchak Well-Known Member

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    I don't recall the Dems repealing any laws the GOP passed regarding removing red tape for oil companies? You got a link?
     
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    Full disclosure. I also believe something has to change, but this isn't the way to do it.

    If you're going to impose the transition from the top down, you're responsible for the side effects of the action. Just as a parent is responsible for a child they deliberately created. Either you give people the choice to do it when they're ready and accept that that means it will take a while, or you fund those who aren't ready. And by fund I mean provide electric vehicles and the cheap power to run them.

    Forcing our hand is a kind of stealth genocide.
     
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    Never mind them .. the vast majority of us can't afford a Tesla. Probably close enough to 90% are never going to be able to buy one unless their ticket price plummets. And then there's the small matter of paying for the electricity to charge the damned things.
     
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    Nonsense!!! Where did you get this "science" from? It true, why aren't Oklahoma and Texas still going great guns rather than having us go to fracking which is like treating the earth like a rag and squeezing the oil out.
    No, not made up
    https://www.greentechmedia.com/arti...ntain-the-growth-of-the-lithium-ion-battery-m
    You're welcome to show proof that I'm wrong.
     
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    When you're so disconnected from the real world - in many cases by generations of urbanisation - it probably doesn't even occur to you to consider such things.
     
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    Ok, first, you're right. I read it wrong.
    He screwed the pooch on two levels. First he made the deal to cut production
    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/12/...opec-russia-saudi-arabia-oil-coronavirus.html
    Then you throw this into the same deal
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...se-u-s-military-support-sources-idUSKBN22C1V4
    The second one was the killer. Because of his "strong man" BS he made the deal for 2 years. When the world opened up after covid and demand increased the Saudi's said "we're not going to. You used extortion to get your deal.......live with it".
    THAT is the reason gas prices are high today. All the other nonsense....leases, pipelines...whatever is just noise.
     
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    Sorry but it didn't. If you can prove me wrong, have at it.
     
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    your average progressive can’t afford their own car insurance, let alone an EV.

    His pandering here is going to kill them
    In November.

    I’d play this thing on repeat for the next six months.
     
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    The Wall would have done nothing but the Ukraine money is an investment in democracy....to put it simply.
     
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    Wait.......you think climate change is fake? Are you kidding?
     
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    Things will change in 2 months. Trumps screwup deal with the Saudi's should be over by then.
     
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    Hmmm.......was this the same argument from horse to auto?
     
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    Part of the oil story liberals ignore is plastic, asphalt, synthetic fabrics, fertilizer, tires, wax, pipes, clothing, etc. are made from oil.

    Maybe liberals will propose going back to plowing fields with mules to eliminate oil powered farm equipment. But then mules produce mule sh*t which creates methane causing more global warming. If Biden gets his way this will be the future of agriculture, a hand plow.
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    irrelevant
     
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    It's the market.
     
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    Global warming is fake. Did you paint your streets white yet? How about the roof of your car and q house, did you paint them white yet? The true believers did. And what make and model EV do you have and how much money are you saving with the solar panels you installed? The true believers did all those things.
     
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    (sigh) No, it's not fake. No, my street isn't white. No, nothing else is painted white. No, I don't have an EV (yet). No, I don't have solar panels (yet). You know, none of those things change whether or not it's real. It's just science that proves it.
     

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