Dear Illegal Immigrants...

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  1. gringo

    gringo Well-Known Member Donor

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    why so much fear from the GOP and Qanons and basically every other conservative lunatic??

    from reading the first few posts of this thread there is ONLY ONE conclusion.

    many here are in the early stages of mental illness

    paranoia is the first stage of mental illness....

    please answer the below few questions

    1. why are you so afraid of uneducated brown skinned people??

    an uneducated person will never replace an educated person..no matter the color of the skin

    many times, fear not associated with mental illness is a lack of intellect

    2. why are you so afraid the world is changing, why must some people feel the need to stop the world from changing??

    a few generations ago the exact same type of people that immigrated to this country are the same type of people immigrating today

    only a few generations ago this poem was a mantra for our country..

    it is on the pedestal of the statue of liberty

    "Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
    With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
    Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
    A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
    Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
    Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
    Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
    The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.

    "Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
    With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
    Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
    The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
    Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
    I lift my lamp beside the golden door! "

    Emma Lazarus

    to the afraid and fearful people of this country I say

    educate yourself, and work hard and be honest.

    an educated, hardworking, honest person has little to fear

    fearful people usually have none of the above 3 traits
     
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    the social media mob is "far left?" coulda fooled me.
     
  3. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Non-sense.

    He owns 30%, which is three times as much as the next largest owner.

    Can we apply your logic to ExxonMobil as we discuss greedy ownership and gas prices?
     
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    Apparently you haven't been paying attention these last 5-6 years.
     
  5. Lil Mike

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    I agree it's not Democratic voters. If the choice on the ballot was an obvious "Destroy the Middle Class Yes or No?" Obviously most of them wouldn't choose that. However their current ideology is less an actual ideology than a collection of bumper stickers and fads. A good example is the "Defund the Police" movement. Although it's been a far left idea for a while, it was so fringe that virtually no one had heard of it until it started showing up on protest signs at the start of the George Floyd riots, then every urban Democratic politician had to start bowing to it. Several actual US cities did that as a result, and paid a fairly heavy price for it. But no average Democratic voter wanted to increase robbery, rape, and murder; they just wanted to virtue signal. Unfortunately that had real world consequences that still have not been undone.

    With illegal immigrants they are virtue signaling again. After all, "no one is illegal" is something we hear a lot over here regarding that issue, and the Biden Administration has at this point, allowed almost 2 million illegals to stay in the US since the beginning of the administration. But importing millions of low to no skilled workers tanks the wage rates of working class jobs, something that is a high priority of corporate lobby groups, particularly those who employ lots of low skilled workers. They are cutting the legs out from underneath an entire generation of Americans, all so they can add another bumper sticker to the collection.
     
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    It's more like social media is "non-freedom". Neither the left nor the right want freedom. They want to dictate how you live, what you think, what gods and religious beliefs you hold or lack thereof, what you inject into your body, what weapons you are allowed to possess and where you can carry them, how you should or should not have sex, what you are allowed to do to your body, what your kids should be taught in school, and ensure that you are permanently chained to the debt cycle and that you are beholden to the elites that create and manage both the left and the right simultaneously.

    It's all about control. The path to freedom lies in destroying both the left and the right, through compromise and with everyone minding their own business and living their lives how they see fit.
     
  7. Lil Mike

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    That makes things much worse. Then you are saying...anyone can come here. No limits, and they will get to work legally. Most coming here don't care about citizenship or voting, their kids will be citizens and they will do that.

    Sorry, 100% no to your open borders plan, although I'm sure it will get a lot of Democratic support.
     
  8. Lil Mike

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    False on both counts. The vast majority of "Hispanics" vote blue and almost all Blacks vote Blue.
     
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    God doesn't exist and, even if he did, it's not said that he authored any books.
    That's false. Trump has 5.4 millions reasons to lie to us.

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    I don't take it personally. I'm telling you that I and many others usually skip over posts with obnoxious colors, font and size changes and other hypertext.
    Again, I don't care how you choose to present your ideas. I'm telling you that if you sincerely want to have dialogues with people about your ideas, those of us that don't have time to decipher your meaning because of obnoxious sizes and colors won't usually bother. Just know that could be a contributor if it ever seems like others aren't engaging.
     
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    I did not say anything about letting people in or how they may obtain legal status. Why assume all that?

    I basically agree with Trump's immigration policies. Walls, those applying for refugee status can do it from Mexico or their country of origin etc.

    I simply said that those who enter illegally or violate the terms of their visa if they are legal should not have a path to citizenship.
     
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    30% is not 100% and Zuckerberg does not own 30% that is what he owned at the IPO. He has sold almost half his shares since then. According to this Dec 2020 Forbes article Zuckerberg owned 16.8% at that time.

    https://www.investopedia.com/articles/insights/082216/top-9-shareholders-facebook-fb.asp

    Educated people do not talk about a company like that as if it was Joe's diner down the street. Thousands of people own stock in that company and millions do through mutual funds.
     
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    I agree. I think people are taking too much from polls. The polls look like Latinos have moved over to the republicans but that is just because the economy is bad.

    As for blacks I can never see them moving away from the hate whitey victim narrative. I just do not see enough character for more than 10-12% of them to ever vote republican.
     
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    That is moronic. No country on earth purposefully alters it's cultural and racial makeup for political purposes.

    Why wouldn't people who were born here take offense at it when moron politicians say you are trash and the country is better off with fewer people like you?

    That is why no self respecting patriotic white person should ever vote democrat. If you want to live in Mexico go move there.
     
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    Well said. Welcome to PF.
     
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    The First Amendment does not forbid private companies from deciding what content goes on their platforms. In fact, it protects them doing so. Yes, details are a good thing, which is why you should read what the 1st Amendment ACTUALLY says.
     
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    why so hateful??

    fear seems to have turned to hate
    • like I said. The country has survived for over 200 years and since it's beginning it has been infiltrated with immigrants since 1776.

    • our forefathers were not afraid of immigrants and I certainly am not

    • I am intelligent , honest and have worked hard my entire life
    • I am not afraid of change or immigrants .

    • To quote Romney

    • i will be fine no matter who is the president

    • I will NOT blame the system for my failures or give it credit for my successes

    • I suggest to the people worried about immigrants Work hard and be honest ..and don't worry about others ..

     
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    Well yeah, that seems a no brainer, I thought you were saying they should be allowed to stay rather than being deported.
     
  18. Lil Mike

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    I think "Hispanics" are more movable simply because they are more upwardly mobile and have different cultural priorities than Blacks seem to. But most people don't rationally sit down and examine the platforms of both parties and determine based on their beliefs and circumstances, which is right for them. They inherit party preferences from family and peers and alter their beliefs to "fit in" to that. So massive party changes are usually generational. Of course big events, like Biden getting us into a nuclear war to protect "freedom" in the Ukraine could alter that rapidly.
     
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    Yard, why on Earth would the armchair experts actually educate themselves about anything they clutch their pearls about? What are you smoking, man? Mail me some. LOL
     
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    We are not going to deport the vast majority of those people. We did not do that under Trump.

    If that is your goal it is not happening.
     
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    Did you know that the terrorists from 9-11 overstayed their visas? I wonder if Democrat Politicians actually would have not allowed people to overstay their visas if 9-11 would have happened?

    I think that it should cost a lot less money, and be a lot less complicated to become a U.S. citizen. However, I do also believe, that there needs to be at least some background checks, and venting, before, just anyone comes into this country.

    Both sides of the spectrum abuse illegal immigrants. Partially, threw labor purposes.
     
  22. Lil Mike

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    That is, in fact, my goal.
     
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    It's mutually beneficial, for sure. The Leftists being played aren't those at the top - they know exactly what they're doing. It's the clueless voters.

    Mind you, it's getting harder to think of them as innocents whose good intentions have been exploited. The agenda is too obvious now, for any but the brain dead to claim innocence and mean it.
     
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    Imagine being such a racist, that you assume every non-white person will adore the white overlords.

    Incredible .. and hiding in plain sight.
     
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    It's sometimes said that a Progressive is an adult who failed to mature beyond their teenage years. Makes sense.
     
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