Is it time to re-introduce mass incarceration?

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Re-introduce mass incarceration?

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  1. wist43

    wist43 Banned

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    It's not that complicated...

    The number 1 reason for the increase of crime across the board is the breakdown of the family.

    No fathers = undisciplined, dysfunctional kids.

    This had always been a goal of the left - it is why they champion welfare and other assistance programs that incentivize baby mommas to have babies out of wedlock.

    It's deliberate.
     
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    Sallyally Well-Known Member Donor

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    “Incentivise baby mommas to have babies out of wedlock.” And those girls do it all by themselves!
     
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    They get paid by the government to have babies.

    They get welfare, foodstamps, Medicaid, public housing, dental, etc.

    The sperm donor is then free to continue donating in between his stints in jail - which for most of those guys is "3 hots and a cot."

    You should read your Marxist and leftist literature... abolishing the family unit is at the heart of their ideology.
     
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    Sallyally Well-Known Member Donor

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    My original statement stands. Why would anyone tie herself willingly to a lifetime of welfare dependency? Probably because a man tells her, yes I love you and will stay with you.
     
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    Come on Sal, you know there are women who do this as a 'career'. They decide they don't want to work, and go about doing whatever they have to do to make that happen. I can't blame them for not wanting to work, because we're hardwired to stay home with the babies while the males go out hunting, but spastic breeding is not the way to do it.
     
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    What?? Lol...

    Poverty is a generationally perpetuated lifestyle.

    If they play it right, they get all the freebies, and then have a man living with 'em to pay for a nice tv, cable, furniture, drugs, etc.

    Life B good, huh??
     
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    I believe every good parent already works to ensure they are not raising bad kids.
    That's why the majority of citizens are NOT criminals.

    It's those that can not ensure they are raising bad kids. For lack of some resource to do so. Be it money, education or other.

    So I guess society should focus on those parents who are not raising good kids and get them tools to raise good kids.
     
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    That was always the intention.
     
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    I have gathered from reading a few of your posts in here, you really are not one that has the resources to contribute to this topic.
     
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    1) Focus, determination, self-discipline, and sacrifice (on behalf of your child) are all free. Education is free. Put the two together and the poorest family can produce a world changer. It has little to nil, to do with 'resources'. It's a matter of the will to ensure your kids are educated out of poverty. Freely available to anyone who cares. If this woman can do it in the poorest part of India, Americans have no excuse.

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    2) Yes, society. As in the individuals who make up society. The individuals who raise kids.
     
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    Lol... how so??

    I've lived one hell of a life, so I'm sure I can handle anything ya got ;)
     
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    It would seem there are some adults that don't have those traits.
    So, we are where we are at today

    That would be part of the other I mentioned.
    And part of the tools needed to get those parents that lack those traits or understanding.
     
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    No doubt a few. It’s easier to go to work rather than stay home with “a passel of brats” for whom you’re inadequately compensated by the government.
    Hardly a satisfying career choice.
     
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    LOL. Anything I got?
     
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    A life of poverty? Come on!
     
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    It's not a 'trait', it's a choice for self instead of child. It's sheer selfishness/laziness on the part of the adult.

    I don't know what 'tool' you believe will somehow fix a lazy selfish adult, but I'm keen to hear about it.
     
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    A belief coloured by your own experience, I suspect. There are plenty of women who find raising their kids 'easier' than going to work. They probably outnumber mothers who genuinely want to work.

    As to whether it's 'satisfying', again probably reflective of your own experience. For me it was the opposite. No job (and I've had some amazing jobs serving the public .. still do) comes close to the satisfaction of raising my kids. It's like night and day.
     
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    It’s hard work raising kids and many parents make a hash of it.
    Satisfaction comes later when your kids are worthwhile members of society.
     
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    Not as 'hard' as working for the man.

    On the contrary, many women find immense satisfaction in every day that they spend with their children, from conception.
     
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    Disagree.
    Agree. Many do, many don’t.
     
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    Those who do, are not in the minority. At worst it would be 50/50. Which means many women, when insufficiently resourced, will choose welfare to support such a life. That means having more babies than they should. Or having them at all, when they should have stuck to houseplants.
     
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    Don't be shy now... challenging me should be quick work for a genius like you ;)
     
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    You say “many” a lot.
    Ps. Going off topic.
     
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    Do any of you have experience with poverty, or people who live in poverty??

    Liberals tend to be wrong about everything, so I'm not surprised.
     

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